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  How to explain, need some advice.

  by PoppyR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  to give you some background, i'm married, two pre-teen boys.

  i haven't been to meetings regularly for about a year, and not at all now for about 2 months.

  previously we were all hit and miss, so it's only very recently that my boys have taken any notice.

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  Good to hear it went well. It sounds like you have a very understanding family.
  I dont think you need to talk specifically to your family about what you know. The kids will ask questions from time to time and so you can give them casual answers. They will trust you are being honest with them.
  I do think you should occasionally discuss things 'calmly' with your husband. He should read some of the information you know. He will say it is apostate, so go to sites like Wikipedia.org and non apostate places to prove the many wrong things of the JWs. I can lead you to a lot of facts and figures from non JW sources if you like. That way he will show if he is interested in knowing the truth, or will be an JW at all costs. Eventually you may be able to encourage your husband to read crisis of conscience.
  Hope that helps.
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  How to explain, need some advice.

  by PoppyR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  to give you some background, i'm married, two pre-teen boys.

  i haven't been to meetings regularly for about a year, and not at all now for about 2 months.

  previously we were all hit and miss, so it's only very recently that my boys have taken any notice.

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  jwfacts

  Good to hear it went well. It sounds like you have a very understanding family.
  I dont think you need to talk specifically to your family about what you know. The kids will ask questions from time to time and so you can give them casual answers. They will trust you are being honest with them.
  I do think you should occasionally discuss things 'calmly' with your husband. He should read some of the information you know. He will say it is apostate, so go to sites like Wikipedia.org and non apostate places to prove the many wrong things of the JWs. I can lead you to a lot of facts and figures from non JW sources if you like. That way he will show if he is interested in knowing the truth, or will be an JW at all costs. Eventually you may be able to encourage your husband to read crisis of conscience.
  Hope that helps.
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  Say something here, that you'd say in your JW active days

  by JH in

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  i'll start:.

  hey brother smith, how about if we go preach the good news tomorrow morning, hey?

  pick you up at 9

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  The end is coming in the year of peace 1986,
  No! well definitely by 2000
  2014?
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  HELP! If anyone wouldn't mind to talk?

  by truenote in

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  i used to be mouseywhite.

  but, i changed that.

  would anyone like to to talk?

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  the next guy that looks you in the eye (and is hot enough), go up and KISS HIM
  Then level with your parents. "It is not the truth. I will never be a JW. I don't want to talk about it unless you can handle the truth. Oh, I love you and will always stick by you."
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  Calling all Bethelites

  by Nadsam in

  1. jw
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  when you were at bethel..what sucked most ?breakfast/daytext/table overseer.monday night wt studytuesdays bookstudy at one of the local cong.wednesday evening fieldservicethursdays parts on the service meetingfridays "family evening" / evening fieldservicesaturdays quick build hall construction assistancesundays field service/meeting/late supperdaily sisters housekeeping/snooping through your possessionscar poolsallowance daylaundry day / missing clothing / badly sewed clothingboring libraryfarm duty !!!

  stalls vs $#it vs gardeninginking the press!digging/carpentry/bricklaying/box packing/loadingnasty crotch grabbin roomiesnot gettin sum..except nasty looks from roomieslousy infermary (basic asprin cures all !!!

  )longest pompous a$$ prayers going on and on and on....old anointed bro's ..that pee themselves and need help !assembly sound duty omg!food service overseeingparking attendant workapostate lookout/security work (it does exist guys !

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  the bell.
  the roomies that went to sleep at 8:30
  the meeting with the overseer for being 1 min late to work
  cleaning 30 toilet bowls a day for a year, and no, not all bethelites scrub
  being called into one of the branch committee for going out one night after midnight
  the smell of the bethelmade vinegar cleaning liquid
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  Calling all Bethelites

  by Nadsam in

  1. jw
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  when you were at bethel..what sucked most ?breakfast/daytext/table overseer.monday night wt studytuesdays bookstudy at one of the local cong.wednesday evening fieldservicethursdays parts on the service meetingfridays "family evening" / evening fieldservicesaturdays quick build hall construction assistancesundays field service/meeting/late supperdaily sisters housekeeping/snooping through your possessionscar poolsallowance daylaundry day / missing clothing / badly sewed clothingboring libraryfarm duty !!!

  stalls vs $#it vs gardeninginking the press!digging/carpentry/bricklaying/box packing/loadingnasty crotch grabbin roomiesnot gettin sum..except nasty looks from roomieslousy infermary (basic asprin cures all !!!

  )longest pompous a$$ prayers going on and on and on....old anointed bro's ..that pee themselves and need help !assembly sound duty omg!food service overseeingparking attendant workapostate lookout/security work (it does exist guys !

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  I would love to know who they were, by PM if you don't want it to be known.
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  i need some advise

  by bayrhino in

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  we'll were do i start i've surfed your board and i now at the point of breaking away from the jw organization .

  for about 2 years now i've read and done some research and seen all the lies cover up read "crisis if conscience" ray franz and i got to the meeting and see all these people hundreds just going about not being open minded if wt tells these people the world is flat the thats what they'll believe and never question it.

  we'll im 28 and been a jw all my life met my wife got married i have 2 wonderfull kids.

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  I am sorry to hear your situation, it is very difficult and not much you can do about it. It is great that you have the bravery to stand up for truth.
  I spent 10 years in your situation. Over the last year I made a complete break from meetings. The sad reality is that most of your family are not interested in truth. I have asked many of my family and it comes down to their fear of the unknown of leaving being far greater than wanting to know the truth. When that is the case there is nothing that you can do to change their minds.
  To understand why this is it is worth reading http://www.jwfacts.com/index_files/cogdiss.htm by by Randall Watters.
  It is worth keeping low, not making a scene so as not to get d/f. Hopefully your wife will listen to you and eventually realise the truth.
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  I just had some fun with dubs at my door.

  by JeffT in

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  when i opened the door i was expecting the apartment maintance guy.

  instead there were two guys with watchtowers.

  one starts in on whatever his presentation was going to be and i stop him and say that i'm familiar with jehovah's witnesses, my wife has some witness relatives (true).

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  I find most JWs are clueless to their own teachings, beyond the most basic level. Most do not like many of the teachings so they believe what they want.
  Few believe on JWs will be saved at armageddon, few believe Jesus is not their mediator. The Watchtower keeps their doctrinal statements sufficiently vague these days so the average skim reading dub never even finds out. Finally realised the value of being politically correct rather then bluntly truthful.
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  What do you feel is truly and absolutely IMPOSSIBLE?

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  a friend of mine told me tonight that he believes something is impossible.

  this happens to be a something that i feel is not only possible, but 100% proven beyond all doubt.

  interesting.

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  I think it just makes you like everyone else. It is IMPOSSIBLE to know what is impossible. Everything we believe must be based on some assumption, there has to be an assumptive reference point to start from. I believe that the more dogmatic a person becomes about their beliefs, the less possible it is for them to recognise the assumptions they make.
  To bring it back to JWs, the reason they are so positive that they are right is that their dogmatism blinds them from recognising the base assumptions they have made.
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  on a co-equal trinity and pagan holidays

  by sweetscholar in

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  2. beliefs

  it's easy to see straws or beams or splinters in other people's eyes, and yet fail to notice the trunks and logs and things in our own eyes.

  but anyway, about those emails.

  there are points that are never really truly honestly addressed.

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  Does this sound to anyone like RUSaved and SweetScholar are the same person with a split personality?