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  Flips and Flops: Higher Education

  by Iamallcool in

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  2. friends

  i would like to show my friend that the watchtower change their mind all the time about higher education over the years.

  they usually discourage higher education as we all know that.

  i would like to show him the wt quotes.

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  Thanks Jonahstourguide.

  I have a full article now on education, including the changes over the years, at jwfacts.com/watchtower/higher-education-university.php
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  Did you ever have a supernatural experience?

  by XPeterX in

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  ok i know some of you are going to mock me but i don't give a shit and you'd better get dafaq outta this thread if you don't beleive in this stuff.. .

  so,you ever seen somethin strange?shadow people?felt cold spots?touched by something you can't see?beaten by an unseen force?heard voices/whispers/growls/screams etc?are you sure about it or was it just your imagination?you ever been into the occult?c'mon share your experiences and stories!personally i've never had an encounter with the other side..

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  This proves for those who experience it, that there is a world beyond our world and this opens the door wide open to the thought of an omnipotend God and many so called gods....

  Patrick45 - That is an overly broad statement. These experiences do not "prove" anything, even to many that experience them. It could be considered an indication, not a proof, of a world beyond, but it could equally be caused by drugs or mental disorders. Further, while such an experience could be caused by another dimension, or a spirit world, or a god, it is not proof that God is omnipotent.
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  I know TTATT... so why do JW apologists still scare me?

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  2. friends

  another of my rants.... .

  why am i still scared when i read something that the jw's have written?

  why does it still upset me to read jw literature?

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  Indoctrination works on repetition, which builds strong associations within your thought patterns. It takes years to rewire.

  One of the first things I studied was earthquakes, and learnt that earthquakes are not more frequent now than ever before. Yet for the first few years after leaving, every time there was an earthquake, I felt terrible fear that Armageddon may be real.
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  Did you ever have a supernatural experience?

  by XPeterX in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok i know some of you are going to mock me but i don't give a shit and you'd better get dafaq outta this thread if you don't beleive in this stuff.. .

  so,you ever seen somethin strange?shadow people?felt cold spots?touched by something you can't see?beaten by an unseen force?heard voices/whispers/growls/screams etc?are you sure about it or was it just your imagination?you ever been into the occult?c'mon share your experiences and stories!personally i've never had an encounter with the other side..

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  I woke and was pinned to the bed one morning, face down on the bed. I tried to call out Jehovah, but since I was frozen realised I was unable to utter his name, and hence powerless against the demon that had me under his control. Shortly later I was able to move again. I woke in quite a state of panic. It was not till several years later that I learned that it was sleep paralysis. Sleep paralysis, epilepsy and schizophrenia all were once feared as demon possession, and I am grateful that science is slowly ridding us of these superstitions.
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  Flips and Flops: Higher Education

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i would like to show my friend that the watchtower change their mind all the time about higher education over the years.

  they usually discourage higher education as we all know that.

  i would like to show him the wt quotes.

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  Skin - what is the quote?
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  Issue with something said about Geoffrey Jackson on here

  by possiblepineapple in

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  2. scandals

  i saw this on some exjw website where allegedly in regards to gj jwfacts said "he made the first dictionary for the language of tuvalu where he was a special pioneer and became favoured by the king of tuvalu who he would have meals with, so he does not seem to have an issue with mixing with politics... ".

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/175970/1/do-you-happen-to-know-any-of-the-7-newer-gb-members-what-are-they-like-any-hope-for-positive-changes.

  this however doesn't make a lot of sense since tuvalu doesn't have a king, their monarch is elizabeth ii.

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  *** w00 12/15 p. 32 “Something That Should Bring Joy to Everyone” ***

  "TUVALU, a beautiful country made up of nine islands in the South Pacific, has a population of some 10,500. Still, realizing that God’s “will is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth,” local Jehovah’s Witnesses yearned to have Bible publications in their own language. (1 Timothy 2:4) This posed a challenge, as no dictionary was available in the language. In 1979, a missionary of Jehovah’s Witnesses serving in Tuvalu took up the challenge. He and his wife lived with a local family, learned the language, and gradually built up a glossary of Tuvaluan words. By 1984, the book You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth was published in Tuvaluan by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc.

  Dr. T. Puapua, the former prime minister of Tuvalu, wrote a letter expressing appreciation for the Live Forever book. He wrote: “This book is yet another new and vital addition to the essential ‘riches’ of Tuvalu. You should be very happy with the part that you have played—an excellent part in the building up of the spiritual life of the people of this nation. It is my belief that this work will be written into the history of Tuvalu with regard to the printing of educational books. . . . This [accomplishment] is something that should bring joy to everyone.”

  The translator’s accumulated word list led to the publication of a Tuvaluan-English dictionary in 1993. It was the first dictionary for the general public in that language. Recently, the National Language Board of Tuvalu asked for permission to use it in developing their first vernacular dictionary.

  Since January 1, 1989, a monthly edition of the Watchtower magazine has been published in Tuvaluan. If you are reading this magazine in your second language, why not check page 2 and see if your first language is included in the languages in which The Watchtower is published? Reading it in your mother tongue would no doubt bring you additional joy."

  Yes, it was the Prime Minister of Tuvalu, and not the King. I must have been getting confused with the King of Tonga.
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  How would you respond?

  by MsGrowingGirl20 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok so this is a conversation that i am having with a friend that i really love.

  i have some points that i want to say but tell me, how would you respond to this email?.

  not gonna try to defend anyone i can really only speak for myself.

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  It is very hard to prove to somewhat what other religion or doctrine is correct whilst they still believe the Governing Body are directed by God, and pointless to try. You need to determine what you want to acheive by the email. How you respond will also be determined by whether you still believe in the Bible or not. Here is one potential approach.

  "Since you firmly believe that the Governing Body are directed by God, it is pointless for me to discuss ideas about religion with you. You would not agree with anything I say that contradicts Watchtower teachings, because you are not allowed to. Such a discussion would only be meaningful if you first do a thorough investigation into the history and doctrine of the Watchtower. If after such investigation you find that you no longer can trust the Watchtower to be God's channel, then I would be more than glad to discuss with you alternative viewpoints about truth and religion."
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  Issue with something said about Geoffrey Jackson on here

  by possiblepineapple in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i saw this on some exjw website where allegedly in regards to gj jwfacts said "he made the first dictionary for the language of tuvalu where he was a special pioneer and became favoured by the king of tuvalu who he would have meals with, so he does not seem to have an issue with mixing with politics... ".

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/175970/1/do-you-happen-to-know-any-of-the-7-newer-gb-members-what-are-they-like-any-hope-for-positive-changes.

  this however doesn't make a lot of sense since tuvalu doesn't have a king, their monarch is elizabeth ii.

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  I was told the experience by Geoff as a teenager and thought it was King, but seems likely it must have been the Prime Minister that he was friends with. I think it is referred to in a Watchtower. I'll look it up once I get home from sunbaking on beautiful Coogee beach.
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  Rutherford Says 1925 Was Just His Opinion

  by baldeagle in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  1980 yearbook pp.

  61-63 france 1925a critical year.

  the year 1925 got off to a good enough start, with the french watch tower magazine being enlarged from 12 to 16 pages.

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  The 1980 yearbook also dishonestly misquotes what Rutherford said. The actual quote from the Watchtower 1926 p.196

  "Question: Have the ancient worthies returned?
  
  Answer: Certainly they have not returned. No one has seen them, and it would be foolish to make such an announcement. It was stated in the "Millions" book that we might reasonably expect them to return shortly after 1925, but this was merely an expressed opinion ; besides it is still shortly after 1925."
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  JWs took off from work in 1975?

  by skeeter1 in

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  2. friends

  a friend of mine is an electrician supervisor.

  back in 1975, one of his employees was a jw.

  the jw was so convinced that 1975 would bring the end of the world, that the jw took off from work (like, the first week in january) and sat on the top of a north carolina mountain waiting for armegheddon.

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  I received an email from a man who was a boy in 1975. The father bought a campervan and the family spent 1975 living in the mountains waiting for Armageddon.