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  New website called JW.Orgasm would be epic

  by RayPublisher in

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  funny interchange last night on youtube made me laugh hard:.

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  http://s98060354.onlinehome.us/bu/jw.orgasm_grab.png.

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  It could make a good quizz question. Which site would a JW most like to visit?

  • jw.org
  • jw.orgy
  • jw.orgasm
  • jw.borg
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  Can anyone disprove 607 BCE date using only the NWT and WT literature?

  by Bart Belteshassur in

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  2. bible

  i haven't come across any arguement that does not involve secular history and external references.

  in fact the wt can not get to 607 bce without using external sources as in knowing that they need to get back from 1914 ce to 607 bce, and botching an argument using an external date as reference to create their start point at 537 bce.. i realize that to get the final date we must provide a fixed figure from somewhere which can only be a historical source, but the objective would be to disprove the wt flim flam.

  once that is achieve we can use which ever fixed historical point they wish to chose.

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  Babylon fell	"Babylon fell in 539 B.C." Babylon the Great Has Fallen - God's Kingdom Rules p.184	539 B.C.
  Plus Nabonidus	"On the basis of cuneiform texts he is believed to have ruled some seventeen years(556-539 B.C.E.)." Aid to Bible Understanding - Nabonidus p.1195	17 years
  Plus Labashi-Marduk	"Labashi-Marduk ... was a vicious boy, and within nine months he had his throat cut by an assassin." Babylon the Great Has Fallen - God's Kingdom Rules p.184	1 year
  Plus Neriglissar	Neriglissar ... reigned four years Babylon the Great Has Fallen - God's Kingdom Rules p.184	4 years
  Plus Evil-Merodach	"After reigning but two years King Evil-Merodach was murdered"Babylon the Great Has Fallen - God's Kingdom Rules p.184	2 years
  PlusNebuchadnezzar	"Nebuchadnezzar ruled as king for 43 years" Insight on the Scriptures, Volume 2 p.480	43 years
  Equals start of Nebuchadnezzar's reign	Calculated by adding above figures	606 B.C.
  MinusNebuchadnezzar's 19th year	2 Kings 25:8-9 "And in the ... nineteenth year of King Neb·u·chad·nez´zar ... the servant of the king of Babylon, came to Jerusalem. And he proceeded to burn the house of Jehovah"	19th year
  Date for Destruction	Therefore calculated as:	587 B.C.
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  Jehovah's Witness cemetery trolls disrupt a Mothers grief

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witness cemetery trolls disrupt a mothers grief .

  http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/13013058-95/ray-duckler-witnessing-a-mothers-sorrow-at-a-very-private-moment.

  by ray duckler.

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  JWs are so ignorant. The person in question thinks she is spreading a message of hope, oblivious to the fact that others have their own beliefs and hope, and a cemetery is a place for repectful mourning.
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  What's The Basic Vibe of Jehovah's Witnesses These Days?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  do you think they are zealous?.

  happy, joyful?.

  pessimistic, depressed?.

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  I get the impression online that there is an increased vibe of excitement. 100 years, wars and stare of the art website. The 100 year Mark was always key in many JW minds. Once that is past, it will become an issue. They need to invent themselves, starting now, and start to be a religion that is about family culture and community. End time doctrine needs to be slipped under the carpet, or they become irrelevant. More Footloose on Kingdom Hall stages.
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  Could it be that Jehovah is punishing me for leaving his religion?

  by Julia Orwell in

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  2. friends

  i know it's a completely absurd thing to say, but something happened to me today that triggered the old cult reaction.

  my mind instantly lapsed back into that of a jw and for a split second i thought that because i wasn't doing jehovah things that jehovah's blessing had been removed from me and this is why my life seems to be running into so many dead-ends.

  as a jw i attributed anything good happening to me to being the result of my being a good jw and dutifully doing everything the borg teaches.

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  Sorry to hear what is happening on the job front. Good and bad happens to everyone. As OTWO states, a JW will attribute the good to Jehovah, and the bad to Satan. Or occassionally the good to Satan and the bad to Jehovah and call them tests. In reality, it is just life. You may be finding it harder than usual to be in the right emotional place to find the right job, as you are still recovering emotionally from leaving; that is what happened to me. It will take time for you to remove Watchtower superstitions, but they will fade over the next few years.
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  World Events bring about A Renewed Zeal!!!

  by jk-ton in

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  hi guys!

  is anyone sensing an increasingly sanctimonious arrogance in j-dubs recently?

  im asking this as i am finding that with the two major news stories in the last few weeks (ie.

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  JW's need to read Pinker's books. We are in a period of the greatest peace ever. Pinker does note that it only takes a couple of news items a night for people to live in their fantasy that violence and war is worse than ever.
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  Wife and Kids at Meeting

  by lambsbottom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so wife and kids went to meeting while i stayed home because i am on a religious cleanse.

  i feel really sad and lonely but i know that it is for the best.. on a side note, doe anyone here still agree with jw doctrines?

  trinity being false?

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  If you start studying up on other Christian religions, you will find that they all have solid doctrine. Reading the New Catholic Encylopedia, I found their doctrine to be significantly more strongly researched and better presented than say the Insight book.

  What I also found is that the reason each religion has different doctrine is that each accepts different Scriptures as literal or figurative. The Bible is not a consistent book with doctrine in it. You cannot go to a chapter and study up on the doctrine of the Nature of God, or the doctrine of what happens at death. Each sect comes up with its own interpretation by analysing verses scattered throughout both the Old and New Testament, accounting for the vast differences in teachings. Boiled down, it means the Bible can say whatever you want it to.
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  JW's just called at my door, simply handed me the JW.ORG tract and left! JW's now mere leaflet distributors.

  by yadda yadda 2 in

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  2. friends

  i'm off work today and its a monday morning.

  a male and female jw just knocked on my door, i opened it, the guy just handed me their latest website promoting tract saying "hi, were just leaving these with people today", and then he made to leave.

  i looked at the tract and then looked at him as he was turning to walk away and said to him "ok, thanks, but ummm you could've just left it in my letterbox.".

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  "Ok, thanks, but ummm you could've just left it in my letterbox."

  Great response, I wonder what he thought about that comment. I wonder if he is a disgruntled, fading JW, and just going through the motions, or they are all that way now.

  Legitimate corporations must be envious of the Watchtower having 7 million drones that are happy to do free marketing for them. The power of indoctrination is difficult to comprehend.
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  Hello

  by lurkernomore in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i thought it was high time to introduce myself (without my name of course).

  as my name would suggest i have been reading your intriguing post, thoughts and discussions for some time now.

  around 3/4 months to be exact.. i guess to start with it would seem fitting to give a little background on my current situation.. i'm a born-in, but have over the last few years found that through a number of varying occurences, (some of which i may discuss in future posts) that my 'zeal' has gone from regular field service and meetings to no service in over a year and very sporadic meeting attendance.

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  For me the starting point of realising TTATT was when a fellow witness posted an interesting meme on a social network which prompted comments form both witneses and non-witnesses alike. It was here that i first heard about the whole UN NGO saga. The rest, as they say is history!

  Welcome. I see lots of JWs getting busy on the internet and wondered if they feel like a family and encouraged seeing so many joining together from around the world. It is good to see that the discussions are opening the eyes of some.
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  Poignant Statistics Summary for Comment at This Sunday WT Study! (Aug. 3, 2014)

  by SAHS in

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  2. friends

  the watchtower study to be considered this sunday, august 3, 2014 (using the magazine dated may 15, 2014), titled are you moving ahead with jehovahs organization?, in paragraph seven (on pages 27-28), talks about the number of people baptized in recent years:.

  7 where do those making up the great crowd come from?

  they are being brought together because of what jesus foretold as part of the sign of his presence.

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  Thanks for the update.

  And after the meeting, the few people I talked to actually just congratulated me on my in-depth statistical research – but nobody connected the dots with anything! I couldn’t believe it

  That is an important lesson. They want to believe, so look for the positives. They assume whatever it was you said must be positive, because no one ever is brave enough to express otherwise. It went over their heads so you must be deep. Your mother on the other hand realised what the statistics said, but had to come up with another explanation about Satan.

  I had the same with my parents. I discussed a lot of what was on jwfacts.com. My mother came up with illogical, circular reasoning to get around it. At other times she just simply refused to connect that dots as to the point being made. All that happened is that it destroyed my relationship. Instead of leaving and being a weak person, I became hated for being an apostate.

  Keep that in mind when dealing with your parents. They will be unlikely to allow themselves to draw the same conclusions that you have. But as your mother showed in her comment, she will begin to class you as being on the side of Satan.

  Stuckinarut - So, hang on...am I getting this right? They are boasting about the increase in numbers, but the numbers did not actually increase?

  Not quite right. They are Watchtower statistics, and the number of publishers did increase from 6 million to 7.5 million. However, the Watchtower article was boasting about the number of baptisms, when the actual increase in publishers was only half that number, so the growth is nowhere near what they are saying.