That happened to me when becoming an MS. I was 19, and just before the meeting my father, who was the PO, said I was going to be announced as a Ministerial Servant, and asked if there was any reason that would rule me out as qualified. I had no idea that they had been considering me. I was in total shock, as there were things I was doing that meant I should not take the position, but I was too embarrassed to tell my father I did not qualify. It took away from the joy of the appointment as I felt incredibly guilt when I was announced.
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stupid statement in watchtower about appointments of elders
by hoser inafter going through all the processes of how they appointed elders in the past they say this:.
"the elders in turn would inform the newly appointed men of their appointment, asking them if they were willing and actually qualified to accept the assignment.
so after qualifying the man you ask him if he is qualified.. .
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Not on jw.org - comments regarding bad Jehovah's Witness employees
by jwfacts ini used to be very impressed with convention experiences regarding how worldly employers would hire jws because they were known as the most honest workers.
i was too indoctrinated to realise these were selective experiences, and there are plenty of experiences of jws being dishonest in the workforce.
i have received a couple recently by email.. i have cut quite a bit out of the following email i received so that the person and company cannot be indentified, but you will get the message.. .
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Jgnat - I wonder if this dishonesty and greediness in the workplace might stem from a characteristic of fundamentalist/extremest groups, called "nihililsm". Karen Armstrong uses this word in her book, "The Battle for God" to describe how fundamentalist believers would ignore the very basic principles of their beliefs (a Jewish suicide bomber eating bacon and eggs the morning of his mission, Muslim fanatics partying drunk before hijacking a plane).
This might come out of their conviction that the world is hopelessly corrupt, and therefore it is fine to throw convictions to the wind. The world doesn't matter.
Great comment.
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Demon attacks on JW in past, where'd they go?
by thedepressedsoul inin the 80's and 90's (maybe even earlier) i remember hearing lots of witnesses talk about "demon attacks".
whether it was someone studying the bible who then started having strange things happen in their house to people bringing stuff home from yard sales and getting personal attacks and horrible dreams resulting in them dystroying stuff they brought home or getting rid of it.. .
i also remember hearing a sister say she had to pray in a home with a study because the study started to get attacked.
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Interesting that Christians use the name Jesus to scare off demons (as per the Bible) but JWs find the word Jehovah effective.
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Demon attacks on JW in past, where'd they go?
by thedepressedsoul inin the 80's and 90's (maybe even earlier) i remember hearing lots of witnesses talk about "demon attacks".
whether it was someone studying the bible who then started having strange things happen in their house to people bringing stuff home from yard sales and getting personal attacks and horrible dreams resulting in them dystroying stuff they brought home or getting rid of it.. .
i also remember hearing a sister say she had to pray in a home with a study because the study started to get attacked.
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You are right, this was a huge topic in the 1980's. It was one of the pillars of my teenage faith. If demons were so active in the world, then Jehovah must be real too.
The strange thing is that no one seems to even remember. I remember my mother saying my sister was levitated at a worldly party that she went to and there was a photo. Neither of them recall it. My best friend used to have knives thrown by demons above his head whilst he was in bed. He is now an atheist and said it never really happened. I wonder how much was people jumping on the bandwagon and exaggerating what really went on, just because it was something that was supposed to be happening.
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JW.ORG logo on EVERYTHING
by dynamiterose77 infine line between idolotry and branding... just sayin.... .
i'm just seeing a lot of home-made or print on demand site items with jw.org logos pasted all over.
as an art director, i laugh, because it's hideous.
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JWs pay out Christians for wearing a cross as being idolatry. They reason that the person must be idolising the symbol, rather than using it as a reminder of Jesus. How is it different that the jw.org logo is not considered the same. In fact it should be considered to be worse, as it is idolising an organisation instead of Jesus.
The jw.org logo is a reminder of the organisation, just as the cross is a reminder of Jesus, and not an idol at all. But it does highlight the double standard JWs have for themselves when compared to others.
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Bethel experiences sound like a prison sentence.Why even go?
by goingthruthemotions inwhen i read about bethel experiences my mind go to the show locked up raw!.
why would someone subject themselves to this without commeting a crime.. the wife and i went to see bethel in broklyn a few years ago and it was unlike anything i expected.
very cold.. went the bosert hotel and was talking to a brother there and asked how long he had been there, he said 25 years...i asked how old he was.
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I knew after a tour of bethel that I would hate it but went anyway. I thought it was what Jehovah required of me for the short time before Armageddon. I never expected there was ever going to be the need to save for retirement.
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pros and cons of anti depessants?
by Crazyguy inobviously i'm having ex cult issues, family still in and a wife that's all kokoo for cocopuffs as well as our marriage isn't good.
i would like to leave her, she has never been the kind of wife i wanted.
anyway the stress is getting to be to much, thinking about things all the time and its effecting my work as well as otherthings.
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I would only take them as a last resort. I Was in a similar state to you when leaving. My doctor discouraged them, though eventually I did go on some for about 3 months. I was worried about becoming dependant on them for my happiness.
What really worked was an 8 session course with a Cognitive Behavioural Therapist. It is a simple concept where your train yourself to see the positive instead of the negative in situations. I cannot recommend it highly enough.
To stop your mind going around in circles, write things down. The issue, the solutions, the outcome etc. That is how jwfacts.com came about.
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Not on jw.org - comments regarding bad Jehovah's Witness employees
by jwfacts ini used to be very impressed with convention experiences regarding how worldly employers would hire jws because they were known as the most honest workers.
i was too indoctrinated to realise these were selective experiences, and there are plenty of experiences of jws being dishonest in the workforce.
i have received a couple recently by email.. i have cut quite a bit out of the following email i received so that the person and company cannot be indentified, but you will get the message.. .
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ruderhead - I know of other stories of foolish jw workers, but I also know of some who give their best to their employers when they are at their jobs. Probably reflects the general population
Totally agree. I have found that there are all sorts of JWs, just like in the general population. Some you relate to, some you can trust, and others you don't and can't. Quite unlike the propoganda (thanks Oubliette) in the Watchtower.
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Not on jw.org - comments regarding bad Jehovah's Witness employees
by jwfacts ini used to be very impressed with convention experiences regarding how worldly employers would hire jws because they were known as the most honest workers.
i was too indoctrinated to realise these were selective experiences, and there are plenty of experiences of jws being dishonest in the workforce.
i have received a couple recently by email.. i have cut quite a bit out of the following email i received so that the person and company cannot be indentified, but you will get the message.. .
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Here are parts from another email that I have received.
I am from SOUTH AFRICA and my cousin is working for a JW business. We are Christians and cannot believe that they are supposed to be SO dedicated but do some terrible things!
They pay their staff the lowest wage possible.
They use old parts which they "clean up" and charge customer for "new" ones.
They Drink excessively
Accuse people falsely (stealing their things)
SURELY.......if they are such "holy people" how can they behave like that? They are hypocrites - seem to have no conscience ??? They spend so much money on themselves and waste food by throwing in bin and not offering to the staff who are all battling! They gave my cousin a book called "REASONING from the SCRIPTURES". Don't they use a Bible?
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Not on jw.org - comments regarding bad Jehovah's Witness employees
by jwfacts ini used to be very impressed with convention experiences regarding how worldly employers would hire jws because they were known as the most honest workers.
i was too indoctrinated to realise these were selective experiences, and there are plenty of experiences of jws being dishonest in the workforce.
i have received a couple recently by email.. i have cut quite a bit out of the following email i received so that the person and company cannot be indentified, but you will get the message.. .
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It reminds me of when I worked part time for an elder doing some construction work when I was a pioneer. He said he was shocked at how hard I worked, as all the other pioneers that worked for him were so lazy. He thought pioneers only did so because they were trying to get out of full time work.