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  October 1914? Really?

  by sylvlef in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  km august 2014, page 3 paragraph 6(article for this week's service meeting):.

  "the month of october 2014 will see the 100th anniversary of the establishment of the kingdom.

  for this occasion a special edition of the watchtower will be on this theme.".

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  Here is the countdown card, ending on Oct 2nd 1914.

  
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  Dr. Kent Bradly and Dr. Nancy Writebol's healings Prove to me there is a God!

  by BucketShopBill in

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  i get tired of using the argument of "the mystery of evil" to attack god but where are we when we see heroic acts of godly courage from great humans like dr. kent bradly and dr. nancy writebols wonderful works of love?

  did you listen to dr. kent bradley's concern and loving compassion for west africa?

  he's not angry superstitious mobs destroyed several make-shift medical facilities to treat victims of ebola, no, dr. bradly implored the world to "help save west africa".

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  It is somewhat offensive that you take away from these Doctors the recognition that they have done a wonderful work, by trying to attribute it to evidence of God. God does not take away the suffering, even though he could end it all in an instance, it is left up to both believers and non-believers out of the goodness of their own hearts to have to do what little they can.
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  How to Avoid the Faithless Spirit of most here-

  by DocHouse in

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  2. beliefs

  1- pray to god (whomever you may imagine him to be) asking for understanding.

  2- study the background about the bible (from non-religious sources) to see where it came from.

  3- discard (or at least set aside) chuyrch claims and dogma.. 4- read it, looking up archaeological/historical sources about the places and peoples referred to.

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  Ironically, those are the steps that are most effective in leading to a lack of faith.
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  Have you ever been called for Jury Duty? before or after registering to vote?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've never been called for jury duty and i'm not yet registered to vote, although i'm hoping to get that done this month.

  i know someone who within a few months of registering to vote was called for jury duty.

  i've read some articles that said voter records 'used' to be used to call on people but that was a thing of the past.

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  I have been called, but as Julia said, it is compulsory to register and vote in Australia, so most JWs register. The time I went was very interesting. Luckily the plea was changed from not guilty to guilty during the day, so I only had to stay for one day.
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  feeling like a true apostate today

  by truthwillsetyoufree in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it was back in 2011 when i was convinced that jws dont have the truth.

  i rejected so many teachings and was open about that to members of my family.

  it took me another year to pluck up the courage to attend other churches.

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  I advised him to put a no religious callers sign on the door to prevent it from happening again.

  Good advice, since the old lady may be too timid to tell them she is not interested next time they come around.
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  Recordings of UK or US assemblies

  by Daisychaindream in

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  2. friends

  i had a phone call with one of the elders who advised i attend the assembly at the weekend.

  i have plans (and a life) but i said i'd go there on the weekend as i can't take short notice time from my studie and work.

  does anyone have a link to the assembly or transcript that i could look through?.

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  Most JWs don't remember what was said at the assembly. If you can get hold of the program, all you need to be able to recite is the name of a few of the talks. And maybe the highlights of the drama.
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  October 1914? Really?

  by sylvlef in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  km august 2014, page 3 paragraph 6(article for this week's service meeting):.

  "the month of october 2014 will see the 100th anniversary of the establishment of the kingdom.

  for this occasion a special edition of the watchtower will be on this theme.".

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  2nd Oct 1914 has always been the end of the Gentile times. The Watchtower just hopes people don't notice that WW1 does not sync up with the start of the last days. This is because, "Historians calculate that Babylon fell in early October of the year 539 B.C.E." "Let your Kingdom Come" p.136

  *** re chap. 5 pp. 22-24 par. 3 John Beholds the Glorified Jesus ***

  The major fulfillment of that prophecy started with the desolating of the kingdom of Judah, which is indicated by Bible evidence to have been completed by October 607 B.C.E. Revelation 12:6, 14 shows that 3 1/2 times amounts to 1,260 days; hence, seven times (twice that number) must be 2,520 days. Reckoning “a day for a year,” we arrive at 2,520 years as the duration of the “seven times.” (Ezekiel 4:6) Therefore, Christ Jesus began his heavenly rule in the latter part of 1914. The erupting of the first world war in that year marked “a beginning of pangs of distress” that have continued to plague mankind.

  *** jv chap. 28 p. 635 Testing and Sifting From Within ***

  In its issue of October 15, 1913, The Watch Tower had stated: “According to the best chronological reckoning of which we are capable, it is approximately that time—whether it be October, 1914, or later. Without dogmatizing, we are looking for certain events: (1) The termination of the Gentile Times—Gentile supremacy in the world—and (2) For the inauguration of Messiah’s Kingdom in the world.”

  *** yb75 p. 73 Part 1—United States of America ***

  Quite a few delegates stayed at Bethel, and, of course, members of the headquarters staff were present at the breakfast table on Friday morning, October 2. Everyone was seated when Brother Russell entered. As usual, he said cheerily, “Good morning, all.” But this particular morning was different. Instead of proceeding promptly to his seat, he clapped his hands and joyfully announced: “The Gentile times have ended; their kings have had their day.” “How we clapped our hands!” exclaims Cora Merrill. Brother Macmillan admitted: “We were highly excited and I would not have been surprised if at that moment we had just started up, that becoming the signal to begin ascending heavenward—but of course there was nothing like that, really.” Sister Merrill adds: “After a brief pause he [Russell] said: ‘Anyone disappointed? I’m not. Everything is moving right on schedule!’ Again we clapped our hands.”

  *** w92 5/1 p. 6 The 1914 Generation—Why Significant? ***

  On October 2, 1914, Charles Taze Russell, then president of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, boldly announced: “The Gentile Times have ended; their kings have had their day.” How true his words proved to be! Unseen to human eyes, in October 1914 an event of world-shaking importance took place in heaven. Jesus Christ, the permanent Heir to “the throne of David,” commenced his rule as King over all mankind.
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  It's All About Tablets

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, that seems to be the latest hot thing amoung witnesses.

  everybody buys a tablet.

  even the poor families that eat carb heavy meals are gettin' em.. maybe they can't afford the latest apple product like the maxi/mini pad or whatever they're calling it these days so a trip to ebay or overstock.com fills the bill.. use it instead of a songbook.

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  This new approach is great. It cuts down on wasted paper, which helps Watchtower profit margins, as well as the environment. Watchtower needs to save costs, which is driving this reliance on technology, but in the end it will cause more harm than good, as access to the internet also gives access to education, other viewpoints, worldly friends and porn.

  Once upon a time, Watchtower used to boast about their huge printing numbers. As it all moves on line, their printing will decrease. The 7 million downloads of a magazine sounds unimpressive to a young JW that knows gangnam style had over 2 billion views.
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  Hard time coping with shunning

  by bsand20 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's almost 1am and i can't sleep...again.

  i hate to think the organization is still taking my sleep from me 16 years later but i can't help it.

  i run a page on social media for ex jw support and advice and i'm usually there helping others but it definitely takes a toll on me when i'm having to argue and disprove jws that troll my page.

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  I think about seeing a therapist but then it feels like the organization is winning because they've gotten to me.

  You have that back to front. The religion is winning at the moment, because they have gotten to you. A therapist can help you learn how to stop letting them get at you. I recommend Cognitive Behavioural Therapy as very affective. I know, because that was the only way I could stop thoughts about the organisation consuming me. Now I have the perfect life. I will never get over all the damage the religion has caused, but it no longer gets to me.
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  Corpus Linguistics - Text Analysis of All Watchtower Publications since 1800's

  by objectivetruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been working on a side project for a while.

  the goal of the project is to create a comprehensive database of all publications throughout history.

  with this database i will be able to instantly find trends in text,sentiment of writing, methods used, and scriptures emphasized.. essentially i will be able to put a word like "apostate" into my tool, and instantly receive a report showing every time the word (or similar words) has been used in all publications since 1870.. i will also be able to create reports showing word density used in publications over time.. so i'll be able to see that the word "governing body" has increased in usage 25% year over year since 1975.. or i will be able to analyze the november 2014 wt and run an algorithm that helps to determine, what the tone and motive of the writing is.. the thing that i am most excited about is the ability to instantly find every occurence of a scripture in every publication.. this will be a great tool to find flip flops in doctrine as well as inaccuracies in biblical interpretation.. i will for sure publish all interesting findings here.. .

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  Amazing. When are you coming to Sydney with your computer so we can catch up.

  A couple of things I'm interested in off the top of my head.

  The occurrence of 1914 compared to 1915 between 1910 and 1920. Russell was unsure about the zero 0 and hedged his bets by saying it could be either year that the gentile times ended. I wonder if there was a pattern of change.

  When did Jehovah become more popular than Jesus? I think this was a Rutherford change, and it would be interesting to see the number of occurrences of both words over the last 100 plus years.