Posts by jwfacts

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help! i'm lite on the lingo

by venting in

what is the borg?

what are dubs?

i know i'm forgetting some.

jwfacts

bOrg = B rooklyn ORG . Star Trek mickey take.

Really? So what will the term be once they have completely moved out of Brooklyn?

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Poster with basic math on shunning - for JW parents

by Fernando in

your thoughts on such a poster?.

(http://religions.pewforum.org/reports says: "jehovah's witnesses have the lowest retention rate of any religious tradition.

only 37% of all those who say they were raised as jehovah's witnesses still identify themselves as jehovah's witnesses.").

Good idea. It is not strictly accurate, as 67% leave, but not all are baptised, and not all that leave are disfellowshipped, so the percentage to be shunned would be less. Also, the word soon should not be included, as many don't leave till one or two decades after baptism.

Maybe something like "67% of Jehovah's Witness children leave the religion. It you let your child get baptised, there is a good chance you will be forced to shun them." Could do with work, but something like that.

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A must to be MS?

by crazyhorse in

so is it a must and an absolute requirement to be a ministerial servant in the org?.

i was told that if i refuse an appointment as an ms then it means i'm opposing "jehovah's call to service".

jwfacts

In no way is it a must. It just means that you will not be thought of as a strong JW, and some sisters won't think you are marriage material. Avoiding the title now will make your life a lot easier in the future.

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I've been Love-Bombed

by GoingGoingGone in

so my husband and i are on vacation.

we are in another country visiting his non-jw family.

we lived here for many years, and our closest jw friends are all here, albeit a 4 hr.

jwfacts

MY kids have graduated from 2 of the best universities in the world, have great jobs, LOTS of friends, have traveled the world, and are free to think, say, and believe what they want. And that is priceless.

As hard as it is to leave, it is good that you have taken the step for the sake of your children. It is a point that I like to make to people that are in two minds as to whether they should take to step to leave or stay and go through the motions.

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Letter of Reinstatement

by kayanow in

i'm new to this website and i thought i'd create a profile.

i was disfellowshipped in july of 2013 in another city.

i since moved and starting going to meeting about 6 months ago in my new city.

jwfacts

You have not said too much about your background, but if you are young and single, what about your future? The concern I have is that you will be locking in another generation to a high control religion. If you get married to a JW and have children, they will need to be raised in a doomsday cult that is fast becoming irrelevant. 2/3 JW children leave, and few of those say positive things about being raised in this isolationist religion.

If you marry a JW, and you already have some knowledge about the religion not being The Truth, there will mostly likely come a time when you will want to leave. That puts tremendous strain on a relationship. If you have children, it is often a turning point where it will suddenly hit you that you do not want your children to be raised that way, which can destroy a family if the partner does not feel the same way.

The younger you start building a normal life for yourself that does not revolve around a high control religion, the easier the rest of your life will be.

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Formal Introduction - Hi!!!

by Gustv Cintrn in

jw
friends

been lurking here for yyyyyeeeeears, but was too busy with school, jw life and other interests.

now that i'm done with education for the time being anyway, plus the jw life is under pretty good control, i can spend some time and throw my views here and there in some attractive topics.. born-in, and deeply indoctrinated, but with life experience came better comprehension of my lot in life and have come to accept that, just like the family one is born into, jws are my family, friends, my ultimate and overall identity.

a jw is what i am; like the song 'hotel california', and like so many on this board, check out anytime you'd like but one could never leave.. remember like it was yesterday the failed 'the wolf is coming' calls of 1975, mid-80s, late 90's, y2k, 2004 or so, and same will be with the latest effort to get people overly excited about 'the end'.

jwfacts

It's very surprising to observe many 'younger' JWs beginning to treat the Org as just 'a religion' and not follow it blindly as previous generations, or even take it into account at every single step in life. This way is most comfortable for many of us inside, and as I've gauged it lately, it's the way will continue as the younger generation continues to take over.

Changes constantly; can't hardly wait 'til they knock off the Friday from the big annual convention, also that they lower the pioneering hours even more. Lately I'm seeing a more relaxed outlook on college education as the admin. realizes is now a necesity to be better educated than just High School. Love it!

I have speculated that with 1914 being too far away to be relevant to people born after 2000, the religion will need to change tack and become just a religion, not a doomsday cult. It will then cut back on meetings and activity further, and push more for donations.

The other thing that needs to change is emphasis on living forever on earth. People would rather have an immortal soul than think they may be buried and gone for many years, until God resurrects a photocopy of who they once were. It was fine when all JWs thought they would never die, but now that the older ones realise they probably will, being immortal in heaven is a more appealing concept. That shift is already happening, with the number of anointed rising. Since the current Governing Body would not have been considered worthy 30 years ago due to their age, they themselves show their attitude rebellious in this area and so likely to be accepting of such a change.

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Letter of Reinstatement

by kayanow in

i'm new to this website and i thought i'd create a profile.

i was disfellowshipped in july of 2013 in another city.

i since moved and starting going to meeting about 6 months ago in my new city.

jwfacts

There is a sample letter at http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/207544/1/My-cousin-got-reinstated-guess-who-wrote-the-letter-take-that-Jehovah#.VAMu57ySzZc

Once you are reinstated, will you continue to attend meetings or fade out? I understand that it is hard to lose family, but if you know it is not the truth, then you will regret later in life devoting time to the religion and not building a life based on reality.

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Please help....in a dilemma..

by crazyhorse in

please help with this: when i was in college, there was a lot of talk about university and how all who pursue that are wasting their time and all that.

even before going to uni, there was a lot of pressurr on me concerning my decision.

during that time, two elders sat with me for appointment as ms and asked me if i have freedom of speech in the org since i'm going to uni and i said no.

jwfacts

It is quite simple, don't accept the appointment. Make sure you don't report more than 4 hours a month and they won't even offer.

I was an MS and then moved congregations. I started reporting 1 hour a month, so that they could not reappoint me, but would not get upset that I was inactive and chase me for reports. I was sometimes asked why I was not reaching out but over time people stopped asking.

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Formal Introduction - Hi!!!

by Gustv Cintrn in

jw
friends

been lurking here for yyyyyeeeeears, but was too busy with school, jw life and other interests.

now that i'm done with education for the time being anyway, plus the jw life is under pretty good control, i can spend some time and throw my views here and there in some attractive topics.. born-in, and deeply indoctrinated, but with life experience came better comprehension of my lot in life and have come to accept that, just like the family one is born into, jws are my family, friends, my ultimate and overall identity.

a jw is what i am; like the song 'hotel california', and like so many on this board, check out anytime you'd like but one could never leave.. remember like it was yesterday the failed 'the wolf is coming' calls of 1975, mid-80s, late 90's, y2k, 2004 or so, and same will be with the latest effort to get people overly excited about 'the end'.

jwfacts

Welcome.

have found a nice click within of like-minded JWs

Are you saying they don't accept it as really the truth, but you all hang out together as part of the same social identity?

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Letter of Reinstatement

by kayanow in

i'm new to this website and i thought i'd create a profile.

i was disfellowshipped in july of 2013 in another city.

i since moved and starting going to meeting about 6 months ago in my new city.

jwfacts

Welcome kayanow. Do you still believe it is the truth, or are you trying to be reinstated for family reasons?