Posts by jwfacts

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HELP! Elder bombarded me with scripture...& I don't know what to do.

by Smoky in

i have been lurking on this site for many years.

i rarely post anything, because my english isnt the best and not sure if anyone understands.

i just recently had a run in with an elder, have not seen him in a few years.

jwfacts

I don't understand. If you are an atheist, why would you want to refute things he raises from the Bible, which as an atheist carries no authority.

If you want to have a comeback, it is a futile mission, but realise that he has cherrypicked a few scriptures, out of context and misapplied. Here are some articles that show how.

"only those who invoke the name of Jehova will be saved"

Jehovah never appears in the New Testament. He is referring to Romans 10:13, which is a dishonest translation in the NWT. The name referred to is actually Jesus. jwfacts.com/watchtower/jehovah.php

....go preaching.

jwfacts.com/watchtower/preach.php

"even if you progess, keep doing this routine" ....go to meeting.
"encourage each other, and keep hands, you will receive gift for your work" ....paradise for preaching work.
"like the days of noah, people eating drinking, etc. people will not listen to god"....be in the arc of gods organization, or die.
"keep doing work till the End"....cant stop going to meeting and preaching till the end.
"look for god, and he will find you, leave god, and he will leave you forever"....

All of these apply equally to any Christian religion. The Watchtower is a doomsday religion, that has acted as a false prophet for over 100 years pronouncing specific dates for the end that never came true. See Deuteronomy 18:20-22 to find out how God feels about people making false predictions in his name. Therefore the Watchtower is not a religion worth considering as a place to gather for salvation, encouragement etc.

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Is there ANYTHING Jehovah(TM) doesn't hate??

by punkofnice in

...apart from door knocking, meetings and kingdom melodies?.

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jwfacts

He doesn't hate the haters.

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Purging and letting go of the past

by Skinnedsheep in

my wife and i decided that today would be the day that we would let go of the past.

we collected all of our watchtower published books and brochures and threw them out.

it was honestly bitter sweet to toss our old pioneer books, marked up insight books, and notes from 25 years of conventions.

jwfacts

We are now working on boxing up our children's suits and meeting dresses for donation to good will. Lot's of good memories tied to these things but also a constant reminder that we were trapped in a cult for close to 4 decades.

It is bitter sweet, since there are good memories along with the bad. A hard act to balance the two.

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I'm sitting here listening to a JW try to recruit somebody

by Terry in

jw
friends

i'm at starbucks .

just outside in the courtyard.. i'm trembling.

my hands are shaking.. wow!.

jwfacts

That's great news.

He is bringing up all the standard illogical questions - the size of the org shows it is the truth- and one day will think back in embarrassment wondering how he ever believed such stuff.

I think he should try to get reinstated. Next time lie about masturbation, say how much he has learnt from the experience, and then fade out.

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bethelite kills self because of guilt 10/31/73

by new boy in

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friends

i was working on my car in the factory {bld.

1} on friday oct. 31 1973, when all hell broke loose, the fire alarm in bld.

4 went off at about 9:30. the night watchman could find nothing.

jwfacts

What a tragedy and shame on the parents.

When I left bethel and became inactive my mother sent me a text that she no longer had anything to be proud of me over. Dad was a CO and it was a matter of pride for her to tell the congregations that her son was in bethel. It made me sick and I was glad she could no longer gloat about me in front of others.

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Heading to Melbourne International Convention right NOW Regular updates live here!

by Witness 007 in

9.10 am on the train heading in..how late am i?

train is full of witnesses and comic book characters...they have a comic convention.

they seem to be having more fun.. .

jwfacts

I like that image of JWs surrounded by cartoon characters. Appropriate. I bet the kids wish they were going to that convention instead.

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Watchtower circulation jumps up!

by factfinder in

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friends

the jan. 1, 2015 w shows an updated printing of 52,946,000 copies each issue in 228 languages.. this is an increase of 7,002,000 copies per issue over last year, this is the biggest increase i have seen in the printing of the w per issue for any one year.

thus, including the study edition over 70 million copies of the w are now being printed each month.. .

i wonder if awake!

jwfacts

With just a monthly public Watchtower and monthly Awake, it now covers a distribution time that two editions of the Watchtower and Awakes used to, so it would make sense that it is far higher than the past. Add to that it is now being left in the streets on trolleys for free pick up. I couldn't find any print numbers on the study edition? That must have dropped off dramatically since it became an internal only magazine, and even more so now JWs are encouraged to download it instead.

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Melbourne's Herald Sun -- "confessions of a Jehovah's Witness"

by MrMonroe in

all the dubs pouring into melbourne, australia for the international convention gonna choke on their cornflakes when they read this .... http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/former-jehovahs-witness-lifts-lid-on-stifling-doomobsessed-religion/story-fni0ffsx-1227092921890.

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jwfacts

It also appears at http://m.couriermail.com.au/news/former-jehovahs-witness-lifts-lid-on-stifling-doomobsessed-religion/story-fnihsrk2-1227092933457

The article led to 3AW doing an interview with me to discuss the topics of shunning and that Jehovah's witnesses believe they alone have the truth and everyone eise will soon die at Atmageddon.

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Orwellian Attitude to Old beliefs - Letter re old Lit

by BluesBrother in

the b o e letter about returning old field min.

supplies and , in particular , the future of their revisionist publishing put me in mind of my literary hero george orwell.

they said this : (dated sept 10.

jwfacts

that revised editions of " What Does the Bible Really Teach?"

If the doctrine have been revised it should be renamed "What does the Bible Really Really Teach?"

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Doctors and surgeons say no to blood transfusions

by Mr Negative in

my mum recently told me that even surgeons won't have blood transfusions, but the common people don't get told this.

i have also seen or heard others say that a bunch of doctors/health officials/surgeons were asked, at some point, if they would accept a blood transfusion and they all said no.

is this true?

jwfacts

It is garbage, ask her for the proof.

Those sort of comments show total ignorance of the matter. The story probably arose because some doctors answered some poll saying there are a lot of risks with blood, and they will avoid it where possible. However, most if not all would have blood if there was no other viable alternative. That too is that stance I take. I believe the Watchtower stance to be unchristian, and fully support blood transfusions, however, I too would not have a transfusion if at all possible and whenever there is an equally effective and available alternative.