Posts by jwfacts

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Science increasingly makes the case for god

by DesirousOfChange in

recently got this email from a long-time jw friend who is still "in".thoughts on a tactful response?thanks,doc

science increasingly makes the case for god.

the odds of life existing on another planet grow ever longer.. intelligent design, anyone?.

jwfacts

The fine-tuning necessary for life to exist on a planet is nothing compared with the fine-tuning required for the universe to exist at all.

Which in turn is nothing compared to the fine-tuning required for god to exist, who by definition is even more complex.

there are more than 200 known parameters necessary for a planet to support life—every single one of which must be perfectly met, or the whole thing falls apart. Without a massive planet like Jupiter nearby, whose gravity will draw away asteroids, a thousand times as many would hit Earth’s surface. The odds against life in the universe are simply astonishing.

And yet it is not impossible that there are other planets supporting life, since the universe itself is so astonishingly large.

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I'm studying with Jehovah's Witnesses!!

by Kulotti79 in

jw
friends

hello all... i currently studying the bible teach book and i'm just curious what information does the study conductor record about the student and is it passed on??

and they keep on saying "the truth" which is starting to get on my nerves.

lol.

jwfacts

I'm not sure this is still handed in, but it was when I was preaching.

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JW's - lack of knowledge of their own beliefs

by Illuminated in

why are so many jehovah's witnesses unaware of their own beliefs.

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i would imagine the repetitive meetings, studies and door to door knocking would firmly root them in their beliefs.. yet, i've observed they either back out of challenging questions at times, or share a link to jay w org.. .

jwfacts

"It is important to understand that in most Bible-based cults, although the member is aggressively taught doctrine, it is not the doctrine that holds him in the group. It is the sense that the group is God's true people, a feeling cultivated by techniques of mind control. Thus, to engage the cult member in a Biblical argument or discussion is often futile." Stephen Hassan Releasing the Bonds p.145

Control is not about the teachings, it is about the concept that they are a special people. I think the GB are becoming more aware of that, and so have cut back on heavy doctrine, and now push more the idea that they are the chosen ones, and there are no one else on earth like JWs. The doctrine are basically just filler to make the religion look legitimate.

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Lets pretend jw's disappeared

by atheist_R_stupid in

and joined your ranks.... this means...youre talking about a people, that currently are pushing no sex till marriage.

that would end and join into the messages you currently push regarding youths and sex.

that would be sex, with condoms.

jwfacts

Welcome Atheist-R-Stupid, it is great to have another Watchtower apologist on board to spice things up. It shows the casual observer the mindset of a JW, which in your case seems to be a huge amount of pent up agression, and black and white thinking.

If all JWs left, they wouldn't all support abortion, etc, as you state, then you are just parroting the thinking the Watchtower wants you to believe.

Furthermore, some of the things you have mentioned may be commendable aspects of the JW community, but that does not make the religion healthy, once considering all the evil aspects of it. As Watchtower likes to say, you wouldn't drink a glass of water if you knew it had poison in it, regardless of how clean the rest of the water was.

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Kingdom Consolidation and Sales are coming – Reliable Source

by thedepressedsoul in

i heard form a reliable source that a kingdom hall consolidation is going to be happening in the us.

currently they are looking at every kingdom hall to see if they could and should sell it.

any kingdom hall that has not been updated and is in a bad location (long driveway, not in a visible location etc...) will be sold.

jwfacts

Now that they are no longer pulling a profit from their publishing company, they are looking to real-estate as their lifeblood. What better way to grow capital than to get a 8 million people spending all their spare time doing volunteer building work, and donating to the cost of upgrades.

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Decided to sign up...

by campaign of hate in

so i decided to sign up after many years of lurking.

started researching after finding out about ray franz, which inevitably brought me to this site.. i'm still well and truly inn, but don't want to give any information out, i'm sure you guys know the reasons.. since "jay double you .

org" came online, there has been a definite sense of hysteria with everyone who is "inn", and i get a feeling it's going to get a whole lot crazier as the years press on.. one point i would like to raise is that i feel, without a doubt, that 2034 is going to be the new finish line.

jwfacts

Welcome. That is an interesting summary of what is likely to happen over the coming decades. As insane as it all sounds to those of us now removed from it all, those in gladly clutch at any little crumb to feed their belief that it is all true and the end will be soon. Very sad.

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2014 Statistics and Graphs for USA, UK and Australia

by jwfacts in

i have done a breakdown for the usa, since the majority on this forum are american, along with the uk and australia.

us growth has slowed, but still moving along, but uk and australia have are at a virtual standstill, and in fact decreasing against population growth.. .

jehovah's witness publisher statistics - united states.

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Jehovah's Witness publisher statistics - Australia

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2014 Statistics and Graphs for USA, UK and Australia

by jwfacts in

i have done a breakdown for the usa, since the majority on this forum are american, along with the uk and australia.

us growth has slowed, but still moving along, but uk and australia have are at a virtual standstill, and in fact decreasing against population growth.. .

jehovah's witness publisher statistics - united states.

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Jehovah's Witness publisher statistics - Britain

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2014 Statistics and Graphs for USA, UK and Australia

by jwfacts in

i have done a breakdown for the usa, since the majority on this forum are american, along with the uk and australia.

us growth has slowed, but still moving along, but uk and australia have are at a virtual standstill, and in fact decreasing against population growth.. .

jehovah's witness publisher statistics - united states.

jwfacts

I have done a breakdown for the USA, since the majority on this forum are American, along with the UK and Australia. US growth has slowed, but still moving along, but UK and Australia have are at a virtual standstill, and in fact decreasing against population growth.

Jehovah's Witness publisher statistics - United States

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2014 Watchtower Publisher Statistics

by jwfacts in

the 2014 grand totals page has been released onto facebook.. .

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i have started updating the statistics and graphs at jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php, and will release highlights as i work through it during the rest of the day..

jwfacts

Here is a link to the full report.

jwfacts.com/statistics/reports-service-memorial/2014-watchtower-publisher-report.pdf