Posts by jwfacts

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Child Discipline, new article to address Jackson's Royal Commission testimony

by jwfacts in

i have published a new article at watchtower corporal punishment, as a response to the testimony that geoff jackson gave at the royal commission.

it includes the relevant part of the transcript, along with a string of watchtower quotes to show that what he presented was not accurate, and that watchtower translates rod as a literal implement to hit children with.

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vinman, if you find some pictures, they would be a good addition to the article.

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2015 Questions and Answers!

by Atlantis in

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2015, questions and answers!.

.. these are some of the questions we have received and the answers to those questions.. .. 1. what happened a few months back when atlantis had to disappear.. .. answer: it wasn't so much that atlantis had to disappear.

it was that atlantis had to take a break due to a serious family situation.

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Thank you for the update. I have benefited greatly from Atlantis' work for over a decade, and more recently from files you have sent. It makes it so much more appreciated now I know some of the story behind the name. It is beautiful to know your hair is in memory of your mother.

I am so glad that you could carry on the work for your family. My son is 7 and intrigued by what I do on my site and is constantly asking questions about Jehovah's Witnesses. At this stage he wants to carry on my site when I no longer am able to.

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Child Discipline, new article to address Jackson's Royal Commission testimony

by jwfacts in

i have published a new article at watchtower corporal punishment, as a response to the testimony that geoff jackson gave at the royal commission.

it includes the relevant part of the transcript, along with a string of watchtower quotes to show that what he presented was not accurate, and that watchtower translates rod as a literal implement to hit children with.

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jwfacts

I have published a new article at Watchtower Corporal Punishment, as a response to the testimony that Geoff Jackson gave at the Royal Commission. It includes the relevant part of the transcript, along with a string of Watchtower quotes to show that what he presented was not accurate, and that Watchtower translates rod as a literal implement to hit children with.

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My Mother Died Two Weeks Ago

by Perry in

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none of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.

just found out this morning.

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Sorry to hear of your loss Perry. I did not realise that your family were so involved, but there is no excuse for you not to have be told. I hope you are holding up ok through it all.

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A call from family - Armageddon this month!

by kaik in

i very seldom receive a call from my jw siblings, i mean seldom.

i can count them on my hand in past 10 years.

while we talk about mom a lot and i am in touch with her, i was very surprised when i received this call.

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You are really not interested in returning to Jah, WT, KH? I answered if they will continue worshiping WT after October 31?

Great response. Every time a Jw says the end is about to come they need to be pulled up and asked "what will you do when it doesn't?" Make them put their money where their mouth is and commit to what they preach.

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My letter to Bethel about the flood

by Cornbread in

i've decided to go full public with a new username on this forum.

it's been almost a decade since i've been out and i don't care at this point who knows.

that being said, here's a letter that i'm mailing to bethel.

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Aleph that discussion is an embarrassment that shows how ignorant fundamentalists need to be to force reality into an impossible belief system.

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/flood-noah-global.php gives a brief summary to show how every single line of reasoning proves the flood of Genesis is impossible to be taken literally.

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i'm changing, but for the worse

by embarrassed in

that is the truth-- that's really how i think now.

so why should i tell the truth?

just look at the person i've become.

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If you boyfriend did not trust you when you were saying the truth, then it is a good indication that he is not an honest person.

I have changed a lot of my standards, but honesty is the one thing I have adamantly held to. My level of honesty shocks a lot of people, intrigues them, and results in forming great levels of trust.

It sounds to me that your view of honesty has been damaged by your boyfriend. Don't let that experience taint you.

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EXACTLY Why JW's Are NOT Christian

by Perry in

a lot of people, ex-jws, believers and unbelievers alike, think that jw's are just a somewhat kooky brand of christianity.

is it possible to "try and follow jesus" and not be christian?

what exactly makes someone a christian?

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Ucantnome11 hours ago
'My concern is with helping JWs leave.'
jwfacts do you feel everyone should leave?

No. Many would be worse off if they left, particularly older ones with no one to care for them. I would not like my mother to leave at her age. My activism has two goals:

help those that are suffering within the organisation leave
push the organisation to change, so that those in and out of it are not as badly affected.

The global media and legal attention that Watchtower is getting is helping with point 2, forcing them to change rules on blood and child abuse. Hopefully shunning will eventually be removed as well.

I guess for a fundamentalist Christian that believes following their specific form of Christianity is essential for salvation, then it is essential for every JW to leave and convert to their fundamentalist viewpoint. I find such a concept simply offensive.

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If your Bethelite Brother Doesn't Know About It, It Musn't Be True

by HomebytheSea in

a few weeks ago my deeply indoctrinated father who is a long time elder was wondering why we hadn't been attending meetings, and why my 8 yr old son wasn't on the theocratic school ( sounds like i almost off the hook with that one...lol).

we live in a different state, but i came to find out that one of the elders in our hall called my father, who he never met, to see why our meeting attendance had been so sporadic (i am in my mid-40's, so that knowledge made my blood boil, to put it mildly!

i tried not to answer, but he kept pressuring me, so i brought up the arc and child abuse cases i had heard of in our area.

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He of course said, "Don't worry about it, Jehovah will take care of it!" I said, " Well, he hasn't done anything for the past 65 years, so maybe someone else should!"

Such a horrible comment and great come back. It is the standard comment, but so illogical. Jehovah did not stop any of those children being raped. If he had any interest in the matter he would manoeuver things to prevent the rape in the first place, not wait decades and thousands of victims later to slowly change processes under the pressure of worldly governments.

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EXACTLY Why JW's Are NOT Christian

by Perry in

a lot of people, ex-jws, believers and unbelievers alike, think that jw's are just a somewhat kooky brand of christianity.

is it possible to "try and follow jesus" and not be christian?

what exactly makes someone a christian?

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Ucantnome - excellent point. My concern is with helping JWs leave. It seems Perry would like to encourage the additional step of joining his way of thinking about Christ and judgement day.

I see doctrinal debates as pointless. It reminds me of when I would go toe to toe with Born Again Christians over doctrine, when now I have stepped back I can see both of them as cut from the same cloth. Fundamentalists that are controlled by the undue influence of their human leadership.