What does "solicit money" mean? The lastest letter asking for money ends that Watchtower does not solicit money. Is there some nuance to the word solicit that I am missing?
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Surely the constant begging must be getting embarrassing
by konceptual99 inso we had a begging letter for chelmsford tonight followed by a sm item with a video begging for money.
surely this is getting embarrassing.
it's constant.
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New NWT deception at Genesis 8:22 to indicate earth remains forever.
by jwfacts ini could not find mention of this before.
i was reading genesis 8:22 in the niv and was surprised i had never noticed that this verse gives the impression that the earth will not remain forever.
genesis 8:22 stated by god after the flood, when promising to never again destroy all living creatures.. as long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease.
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Why do you hope "when it perishes/ceases to exist"? The New Testament is specific that the earth will be done away with and replaced with a new earth. There is also prominent emphasis on heaven. What difference does it make where you are and at what time? -
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Favourite Movie quotes...
by Tornintwo ininspiring, funny...you choose.... i'll start with inspiring: .
frodo: i wish the ring had never come to me.
i wish none of this had happened.gandalf: so do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide.
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How Deep is the Rabbit Hole from the Matrix.
Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else, you were born into bondage, born inside a prison that you cannot smell, taste, or touch. A prison for your mind. (long pause, sighs) Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself. This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back.
(In his left hand, Morpheus shows a blue pill.)
Morpheus: You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. (a red pill is shown in his other hand) You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. (Long pause; Neo begins to reach for the red pill) Remember -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more. -
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2014-12-17-BOE-Children Give Up Your Pocket Money!
by Atlantis inpetra!
2015-12-17-boe already, you dear brothers have done so well, sending gifts both large and small.
for in-stance, two children, five and seven years old, sent their pocket money to help build our new bethel instead of going to the circus, writing, "this is much better than that!
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I just received the following message from someone in the UK. These constant calls for money are being noticed.
This letter was just read out at our midweek meeting in the UK and another ex-elder came up to me and said "something doesn't add up" - I asked what he meant. He said they're closing kingdom halls which they can sell and they can sell the London properties just like they have in New York, they seem to always be asking for money lately.
I just said "I know what you mean, you're right. It doesn't add up does it? And think of all the money they are saving by booting out the bethelites!"
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2014-12-17-BOE-Children Give Up Your Pocket Money!
by Atlantis inpetra!
2015-12-17-boe already, you dear brothers have done so well, sending gifts both large and small.
for in-stance, two children, five and seven years old, sent their pocket money to help build our new bethel instead of going to the circus, writing, "this is much better than that!
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When I was still a JW, but wanting to learn about other religions, I went to a born again service. It ended with a lengthy discussion about the widow's mite, and how important donations are. I was disgusted by it, and now here we are with Watchtower rapidly descending down the same path.
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2014-12-17-BOE-Children Give Up Your Pocket Money!
by Atlantis inpetra!
2015-12-17-boe already, you dear brothers have done so well, sending gifts both large and small.
for in-stance, two children, five and seven years old, sent their pocket money to help build our new bethel instead of going to the circus, writing, "this is much better than that!
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I wonder if JWs are starting to get sick of the constant begging for money. They are just like any other religion now that they don't have flow from book sales.
Fancy encouraging people to donate by credit card.
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New NWT deception at Genesis 8:22 to indicate earth remains forever.
by jwfacts ini could not find mention of this before.
i was reading genesis 8:22 in the niv and was surprised i had never noticed that this verse gives the impression that the earth will not remain forever.
genesis 8:22 stated by god after the flood, when promising to never again destroy all living creatures.. as long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease.
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On another note, so this thread isn't completely hijacked, how do you feel about Watchtower changing the wording of Genesis 8:22 from its intended point, in order to prop up a JW doctrine? -
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New NWT deception at Genesis 8:22 to indicate earth remains forever.
by jwfacts ini could not find mention of this before.
i was reading genesis 8:22 in the niv and was surprised i had never noticed that this verse gives the impression that the earth will not remain forever.
genesis 8:22 stated by god after the flood, when promising to never again destroy all living creatures.. as long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease.
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Johnamos, I gave a link that discusses the OT Scriptures you refer to. They are recognized even by Watchtower as being poetic of the Jews. Shame you couldn't bother reading it. -
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Another Up Building Field Service Experience
by ThomasCovenant inthe following was from a friend of mine:.
yesterday for the first time in the 2 years we've been living here.
two 50+ year old women.
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Better yet, tell your friend there (pointing at the silent woman next to her); I assume you consider her a friend right? Well tell her that you don't believe what the witnesses teach anymore. Watch how quickly your friendship evaporates. She'll never speak another word to you for as long as you live,
That was gold.
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New NWT deception at Genesis 8:22 to indicate earth remains forever.
by jwfacts ini could not find mention of this before.
i was reading genesis 8:22 in the niv and was surprised i had never noticed that this verse gives the impression that the earth will not remain forever.
genesis 8:22 stated by god after the flood, when promising to never again destroy all living creatures.. as long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease.
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Johnamos, you are reading into Scriptures what is not there. For instance, how are you quoting Matthew 25:46 "And these will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but therighteous ones into everlasting life.” as discussing living forever on a paradise earth?
I discuss this topic at http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/earth-forever.php. I find it interesting that R Franz felt it was inconclusive whether people would live forever on earth or not. Personally, I feel the Bible strongly shows that there is no everlasting future for this planet, and the expectation of early Christians was heavenly.