with recent events pointing at watchtower growth, i felt compelled to say a few words.. if the figures turn out to be true, then we should not be discouraged.
after 9/11 there was a surge in, not only the watchtower, but other demonisation of organised religion.
whenever there is a a paradigm shifting event that puts fear into others, this tends to have a life changing affect on an individual.. now let us zoom to the present.
Vulnerability is a target for vultures like the watchtower!
Great sentence.
OP is very pertinent. The sad lesson from Brexit and the US election is how ignorant large portions of the population are, and easily swayed by the hype rather than facts. There are plenty of vulnerable people for Watchtower vultures to prey upon, and just fortunate that the GB are so out of touch that overall the numbers that fall for them are comparably small.
please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.
is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.
there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.
I have run jwfacts for 11 years and any time something interesting happens I get emails that the end is about to occur. It never does. As Simon said, it is conceited to think what happens in the US is relevant at all to prophecy.
Even the worst case scenario in the US would not take us back to the normal living conditions of Jesus day.
starting this week the midweek has visual aids throughout the meeting such as sing along lyrics that scroll smoothly, images from the publications being used and the year text displayed in between.
does anybody have the files that were used or have they been leaked?.
I've been threatening my 8yo son to take him to a meeting, so he can understand how boring my upbringing was. With all this, he won't be able to appreciate just how tough meetings were to sit through.
well today was the big day.
we finally let the cat out of the bag to the in-laws about watchtower.
previously there were unknown rumors being spread about me and today i found out why the wife and i are being shunned.
Bible not historically accurate or scientifically accurate, the name "Jehovah and it's use in the NT, resurrection promise, paradise earth unfounded in scripture, quote mining , child abuse and the "two Witness rule.
In light of the evidence you presented, it is fairly clear who are blinded.
apart from the interesting block color change for the title strip on the front page.... the new 2017 wt mag has some new (updated printing figures):.
2016: produced each issue: 58,987,000 available in 282 languages .
2017: produced each issue: 61,651,000 available in 294 languages.
| Year | Average Publishers | Baptisms | ||
| 2011 | 7,395,672 | 263131 | ||
| 2012 | 7,538,994 | 268777 | ||
| 2013 | 7,698,377 | 277344 | ||
| 2014 | 7,867,958 | 275581 | ||
| 2015 | 7,987,279 | 260273 |
The number of baptisms has not increased in 5 years. Printing an additional 16 million tractazines per issue has zero affect on growth. This is simply a chest beating exercise for JW's to be able to gloat over perceived growth, when there is none.
JW's use the huge number of magazines printed and number of languages translated as evidence that they are reaching all the inhabited earth, yet that too is a misnomer, since 60 million does not scratch the surface of reaching earth's 8 billion inhabitants.
there's also a fellow who calls himself the "watchman," but he seems as critical as many of the so-called "apostates.
" is there a place where one can ask questions from knowledgeable believers or "a" believer?
i really don't want to take the bible lessons.
I won by a knockout in the third round.
Are you sure? I guess they are saying the same. For a certainty, your knockout didn't knock them all the way into the JW religion, and probably didn't even get them out of their own delusion.
i just wanted to share a perspective related to my experience with leaving the jw.
at this point, i have been df'd since i was 18. i'm 25, happily married with 2 fantastic children.
after being miserably at odds with my parents and extended family, i've come to some realizations as follows.. i struggled with the conditional nature of my parent's love- talking to me until it bothered their conscience, then cutting me off.
I support your sentiment here. I too have found that I feel better not treating my family as they treat me. I allow my son to Skype with his Grandmother, as I think it is important for him to know her. He knows she is not to discuss religion with him and I follow up the calls to know what was discussed.
On another note, with your permission, I would like to add your comment to the experiences section of jwfacts.com as it perfectly describes the dynamics of shunning and JW families.
so me and my wife have not been on speaking terms for about 5 weeks, and when we do .
talk…it is arguing about the jw cult and more of a barrage from me telling here all the stuff i have learned.
i know i shouldn't do this....but, i get so freaking p.o ed aobut what this cult has done to my family.
She has a good list. Ask her why none of the information matters to her.
october 3, 2016 to the bodies of elders re: minors.
3 de octubre de 2016 a los cuerpos de ancianos asunto: menores de edad.
Why not word it like this: "Being guided by the above recommendations willavoid unfounded accusations and willprotectthe reputation of our organization.our children."
They want to protect the elders and protect the organisation. What they should be wanting to protect are the children, and Jehovah's name. A very revealing sentence.
october 3, 2016 to the bodies of elders re: minors.
3 de octubre de 2016 a los cuerpos de ancianos asunto: menores de edad.
This is somewhat contradictory. The letter states that elders don't have habitual contact with children, so don't need to obtain certification, then goes on to admit that elders may have habitual contact with children, but they still won't get the certification. It seems to be trying to circumvent the new law, and is reminiscent of how they tried to avoid the Working With Children legislation in Australia. I would be interested in seeing what the body that maintains the Central Register in Spain thinks about this guidance.
