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  Ancestery.com— I Got My Results! Very Surprised

  by minimus in

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  so i got my results in on sunday and my bloodline is mostly from great britain and italy and greece!

  not what i expected at all but it does explain my love of italian and greek foods.😎.

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  I got mine, and it said I was half British and half Hungarian. Turns out I'm not Australian after all.
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  Donated Jewelry -- where is it sold?

  by anon123 in

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  2. beliefs

  not really sure in what forum this topic belongs -- trying to find out where kh or other jw org sells the jewelry that is donated to it..

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  Up to about 7 years ago, my mother used to sell the jewelry that was donated to Bethel. Dad was a CO and would go to Bethel twice a year to do the audit. Mum would be assigned to deceased estates. She would take the jewelry to the city and sell it to some place that bought it in bulk.
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  Being cyber stalked by an elder - and how I dealt with it!😉

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  ah...this is funny!.

  my instagram is set to public .

  i have nothing to hide.

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  I’ve accidentally liked a photo, which turned out to be very awkward. Hopefully your elder is feeling the same way. ... It was a good photo though.
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  Have you ever considered trying ancestry.com?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i was recently given a gift of ancestry.com and i’m curious if anyone else has used this service?.

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  I have used familytree. I was blown away at how accurate it was. Absolutely spot on for my ancestry, which spans a few countries. My gorgeous son is even more mixed, and the results were spot on for what I know about his mother’s background.

  I also learnt a few things about my background and origin of my name that I was not aware of.
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  Views on the golden ratio??

  by Freedom rocks in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what are your views on the golden ratio or fibonacci sequence?

  i know jws and some other groups use this as proof of gods existence.

  i'm still looking into the debate but was wondering what others thought.

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  People seem to have a very loose concept of what constitutes “proof” of their belief system. That something fits with a belief does not make it a proof. Many such proof can be used to support both sides of an argument, often a confusion of correlation and causation.

  The Golden Ratio fits the concept of intelligent design, but no more so than it shows that the universe and evolution exist as the do because they follow a mathematical structure independent of a higher power.
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  Behaviour in bethel are they like the jw dramas?

  by purrpurr in

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  what i mean is, i've discussed recently how odd the behaviour of jws is on the drama films that they show at the conventions.

  i'm wondering is the reason why it's so odd because that how's the jws at bethel talk and act in real life?

  is the behaviour at bethel so warped from the outside world that they actually think that their behaviour is normal?.

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  When I was at Bethel there were a few types of Bethelites.

  1 - constructionites who had not pioneered and seemed very “worldly.”

  2 - bethelites that were representative of your normal, “strong” JW. They had pioneered, so been active in their congregations, and often were really nice people.

  3 - eccentric ones. Often so-called spiritual young brothers that would never fit in the world, and probably didn’t even fit into their congregations. The longer they stayed the stranger they got.

  4 - long term Bethelites that ended up losing touch with reality after being in Bethel for decades, never worrying about earning money, paying bills, cooking for themselves or cleaning after themselves. Single brothers or couples without children, yet giving talks or writing articles on such topics.

  Now the headquarters has moved out from Brooklyn they will become more insular and out of touch. At least before they could spread throughout congregations and get some interaction with people living normal lives.
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  Cotton wool jws

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  there was a talk i heard recently given by a top bethel bro, he was complaining that the type of young jws that have been joining bethel in recent years has been totally unfit for work or even life.

  he called them "cotton wool jws" as he says that the parents of these young ones have kept them so sheltered from life that by the time they are of age to strike out on their own they are completely unable to cope socially, emotionally, mentally and that they have no practical life's skills or instincts of common sense or responsibility.

  he said that the brothers at bethel have to work at peeling off the layers of cotton wool these ones have come wrapped in and that often when exposed to the reality of life away from mummy they quite literally go running back home.. for once i actually agree with a brother on the platform, i've met many a young teen or young adult whose life has been one long warm bath as it were.

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  Is it worse with JWs that have been homeschooled? I imagine homeschooling must inhibit a child developing many essential skills, except with the most diligent parents, and would be interested if there is any research into this.

  I did some laboring for a JW and he commented that he was surprised that I could work hard. From his experience, regular pioneers pioneered to avoid having to work.
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  over 700 baptized yesterday at one convention in Africa

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

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  2. beliefs

  there was a french language congregation this weekend in congo dr which had 44,000 in attendance and something like 730 baptized.

  i'm not saying that is good or bad, just reporting the news..

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  JaniceA - DRC is one of the most corrupt and crime ridden places on earth. I honestly don’t know that JW growth is the worst thing that could happen in that place.

  I tend to agree. There are many places where JW values are an improvement, and learning to read is an education. Poorer countries are a drain on Watchtower assets. All in all, conversion could be seen as a positive. My concern is the long term damage that will occur to families as the children leave and are shunned.
  
  
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  Signs You Would Like To See At Watchtower Convention

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  2. scandals

  i think gb loesch has made some pretty bold statements that could be put in quotes with his picture attached could be a real killer!.

  believe and obey only the faithful slave, don't believe any negative comment about us in the press believe only us.. google: child molestation watchtower bible and tract society, klick on wikki.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/jehovah%27s_witnesses%27_handling_of_child_sex_abuse.

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  I'd like to see a JW witnessing trolley outside the convention, with a couple of apostate books and signs on it. JW's identify apostates standing outside a convention as persecution. Maybe if apostates stood there in the same manner as JWs stand outside public places with their trolleys, it may click that apostates are not persecuting them anymore than they are persecuting the public with their message.
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  Has the Governing Body ever been right?

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i asked this question to a relative after mentioning several situations where teachings were changed or readjusted (new light) and they have two reasons.

  yes, they are correct because look at how the preaching work has grown through the decades and the advancements in witnessing and the second reason was the doctrine of the trinity and how the society opposes that.

  i didn’t really have a response, especially for the trinity doctrine.. does the governing body have the rejection of the trinity belief correct?.

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  Originally the Watchtower was undecided on the Trinity, with different views held by different writers. The current doctrine is simplistic and flawed. The Bible is supportive of Binitarianism, and there is logic behind the development of the Trinity. http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/trinity.php discusses this towards the end of the article.