Posts by jwfacts

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Words omitted from a Watchtower article

by Doug Mason in

a short time ago i sought information regarding a quotation in the watchtower of april 1, 2010, which did not identify the exact source of the quotation from professor oskar skarsaune.

my interest was heightened because words had been omitted from the source.. the wts provided a copy of the original 29-page article, which is in norwegian.. here is my very unofficial personal translation of the passage from professor skarsaune's article that the watchtower is quoting.

firstly i provide the text as it appears in the watchtower magazine, highlighting where the text has been omitted.

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TimDrake19149 hours ago
Reading the original, unedited quotes, I find it difficult to comprehend the reasoning behind omitting those other words. It doesn't really affect too much what he wrote, and I see no good reason for even omitting them.

Watchtower wants followers to think that the Bible Canon was closed by the Apostles, not at some later period by the Church. Research into topic reveals that several different Bible Canons available, and it becomes obvious that the Bible in not a selection of books compiled by God's direction, but rather varied depending on the choices of men and the church over the centuries.

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Would you have married your spouse if you weren't both JWs?

by 3rdgen in

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friends

ok, i've had some wine, but i'm curious.

objectively speaking, but for the religion, did you have enough in common with your spouse to have met and married as non believers?

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Like The Girl Next Door I had sex before marriage and felt like I had no option but to get married. I had no idea who I was or what I wanted. Without the pressure of religious expectations I would not have married anyone when I did.

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I asked my wife why the memorial was not on Nissan 14 in April, and why is it in March

by goingthruthemotions in

the initial conversation had to do with someone who has the ability to reason for them self's.

i than asked her.....why is the memorial in march and not in april when nissan 14 is?.

her response..."pray to jehovah for understanding.

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Tell her you prayed and he told you it should be in April.

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How to spot faders or "closeted" apostates in a congregation / meeting?

by nevaagain in

jw
friends

so i am awoken for several years now (never really bought the cool aid) but for family reasons i am still enduring everything.

but my wife knows ... .

anyway so yesterday we had this boring meeting and as i was sitting there trying to make time pass faster i looked around me and i thought who else feels the same as me and is completely bored?

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Be careful with approaching anyone thinking they are a fader. I assumed a few were in my congregation by comments they had made, or how irregular they were, but they were all very annoyed when I discussed that I did not believe it was the Truth.

The best indicator may be people that mutter or shake their heads when dogmatic comments are made from the platform.

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Add your Stupid title of Winess books that did not come true

by Witness 007 in

"millions now living will never die.

" -1922. sorry rutherford but they did!.

"god's kingdom of 1000 years has aproached!

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Jookbeard - yes, not even that many. I've never met a person that has any idea what the JWs think the good news of the kingdom is. Even the ones that know that 144000 go to heaven don't realise the rest are supposed to be on paradise earth

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Elders & Ex Elders

by brandnew in

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friends

i have a question.....if two jw have sex and only one of them goes to the eldurrs and confesses.....do they both get busted?

or does the boe need a confession from both people.?

if one of em denies it happened will that person still get df'd?.

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I had a friend walk in on her husband having sex. Because he would not confess she was not allowed to divorce him and he was not disfellowshipped. Yet she is still a JW despite such lunacy.

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Add your Stupid title of Winess books that did not come true

by Witness 007 in

"millions now living will never die.

" -1922. sorry rutherford but they did!.

"god's kingdom of 1000 years has aproached!

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You can live forever in paradise on earth.

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AustralianRoyal Commission is big news in oz

by sherrie11 in

the catholic church case study28 is currently a major news item here in australia.

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/mar/01/george-pell-wasnt-much-interested-in-stories-of-abuse-by-priests-which-was-lucky-for-his-career&ved=0ahukewjjq_xlvqhlahxml6ykhdm0bdqqfghumac&usg=afqjcnfi_zb-5ibnlx2sw02siwh8i9s1ha&sig2=mmowhxclxmgu1wohyo7ofw.

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/mar/02/was-george-pell-now-scourge-of-the-vatican-once-hoodwinked-by-all-around-him&ved=0ahukewjjq_xlvqhlahxml6ykhdm0bdqqqumiizac&usg=afqjcnfx3qszc7zlocm8aw9h6j8vga_0hg&sig2=xkexfa7lfa6qjnlazwh8da.

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This legitimizes the ARC. To have the third highest person in the Varican involved shows how important it is. Now a JW cannot discuss the Catholic Church and dismiss the ARC in the same breath.

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Actively Fading and The Memorial

by All for show in

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friends

those of you fading- with the memorial approaching are you going to appease family?

not going and making up an excuse?

acting like your going but not really?.

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Missing it and not hiding that you missed it is a good fade. You cannot be disfellowshipped for it, and it lets people know you really are on the way out. Some may try to encourage you afterwards, so just be prepared with some responses that won't get you in trouble.

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lf you had the opportunity to ask the GB a question what would it be?

by atomant in

l thought this would be an interesting exercise to read the different responses.

my question is what makes you think your gods chosen medium?and prove it.

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By the time you get to being on the GB you know enough of the workings and history of the religion, you must know it is not directed by Jehovah. How do you justify deceiving the followers by saying otherwise?