Posts by jwfacts

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Are the anointed really "lovely people"?

by purrpurr in

i've personally never met any of those who claim to be anointed but the other jw's who have are always unanimous in their praise of how lovely and what wonderful people they are.

and i don't mean the gb i mean common or garden anointed.

i was told that when they speak about being in heaven that they almost "seem to glow".. is this right?

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I've known a number. Definitely nothing to set them apart from the crowd. They have really ranged the whole personality spectrum. Some have been quite mentally imbalanced, but in typical Watchtower doublespeak they would dismiss the nutty as pretenders, and the nice ones as genuine, hence perpetuating the myth that they are "lovely people." They have not spoken to me much about heaven, but when doing so it was no different than when the average JW speaks about their fantasies of paradise earth.

If you want to see the answer to your question, look no further than the Governing Body, which contains quite a range. In general, "lovely people" would not be something that springs to mind to describe most of them.

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Were you beaten as a child?

by purrpurr in

i've been confronting my mother with her dubious parenting skills (abuse) of me as a child.

particularly the beatings i would get with the wooden spoon.

not a light smack but hitting me as hard as she could for as long as she could.

jwfacts

Yes, she broke a few wooden spoons on me, but it is ok because it was done "out of love."

There is an article at http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/child-discipline-corporal-punishment.php outlining the Watchtower stance on spanking children.

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Loyalty? Today's WT The RC. It's a fix!

by Slidin Fast in

today's wt has the below scripture as it's theme.

friday of the rc has the same as it's theme.

the silver nwt is alone in using the word loyalty in this verse.

jwfacts

Good point. For the sake of accuracy though, there are a few translations that use loyalty or faithfulness.

loyalty (ERV,MSG)

faithfulness (HCSB,NET)

See https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Micah%206%3A8

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WT's expert on blood!

by Joyzabel in

the january 8, 2000 awake magazine published an article "the growing demand for bloodless medicine and surgery".

this article has been quoted extensively by jws as support for their "scientific" justification for refusing blood products.. a quote from that article that is familiar to most jws and exjws is this one:.

“all those dealing with blood and caring for surgical patients have to consider bloodless surgery.”—dr.

jwfacts

Joyzabel great find.

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Since leaving WTTS have you joined a new church or just continue with the new beliefs you have discovered under no religion?

by AmIright in

share your thoughts ?

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Finkelstein10 hours ago
Religion is a scam made up by mostly ignorant disingenuous power seeking men.

This is how I feel. Moving to another religion is basically looking for a different set of men to be scammed by. Why would any one religious leader be chosen to impart truth over all the tens of thousands that claim to be God's mouthpiece?

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New K.Hall Design, Mansfield

by BluesBrother in

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not mansfield u k , but mansfield in u s a - it doesn't look much, does it?

in fact even the uber dubs on j w talk are not impressed (that must be a first!

this thread of theirs is publicly readable:.

jwfacts

It is a great design, as it could be used for anything. They can build them with free labour and donations, and flick them off a few years later at a handsome profit for industrial usage.

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Amazing Growth! Jehovah Is Blessing The Preaching Work!

by Divergent in

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today's text:.

saturday, april 2. the little one will become a thousand.—isa.

60:22.. perhaps we live in an area where there are few witnesses or where we do not see a lot of immediate results in our preaching work.

jwfacts

Funny they still speak about growth when these days it is no where near as impressive as the past. Even the figure they show about Zambia is nothing special. " This means that 1 in every 18 persons in Zambia attended." There are also 1:18 Seventh Day Adventists in Zambia, and 1:5 Catholics. When I first read 1:18, it seems amazing compared to the 1:330 in Australia, but really it is just a figure that many other religions can claim as well.

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300 books and magazines placed outside The Shard

by pleaseresearch in

hi all.. so i got a txt today from a very proud mum claiming that, the jw cart produced 300 book and magazine placements.

mostly from foreign speakers.. the shard is the tallest building in the uk.

this is where the cart was placed.. not a bad day they had really.

jwfacts

In their heyday they distributed tens of millions of pieces of literature a year, and only had a couple of hundred thousand baptisms, half of which are probably children born into the religion. 300 magazines is unlikely to have any result.

I actually think that the carts will result in net negative growth. Few will join the religion from seeing a cart, but the JWs there become sitting ducks for people to approach them with well thought out information about the religion to make them think.

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Commercial activism.

by Ben131895 in

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in his last couple of vlogs, john cedars is wearing a t-shirt saying shunned.

some people liked it and asked him if they could purchase one.. in his last vlog (#111) he is advertising it and mentioned the link www.apostee.com, based in the us.

comments attached to vlog # 110 mentioned the fact that this company will close in april and that the business will be continued by cedars itself, who has also a stock of anti-witness items.. besides that, he was not the owner of jwsurvey.org, but since january 16, 2016 he is.. it looks (as mentioned before by simon in an earlier thread), this guy is making a living from his activism, a paid career.. one should seriously question his true motives, demonstrated in his activism.

jwfacts

When a person devotes their time to a cause there is no reason they should not be paid for that time. Cedars spends as much time on his site as most people spend earning a living, so why should people expect it to be free?

Randy devoted his life to freeminds, and it was only through donations that he has been able to survive. Fortunately for him, Christian Church groups sponsored him, as exJWs show very little generosity in such regards.

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My Personal Invitation to the Celebration of the Lord's Evening Meal

by TMS in

by no means is this a heartwarming "experience" illustrating how an ex-jw skillfully "reached the heart" of a current jw, moving them to re-examine their belief system.

that won't be my take on my half hour visit with an elder's wife last sunday.

no one scored points here as is almost always the case in these interactions.. we live at the extreme southern tip of texas, on the u.s.-mexico border in a city of about 200,000. twenty years ago there were 20 spanish language congregations, 2 english.

jwfacts

Great post that I wish everyone could read and appreciate. After years of preaching, how many of us ever convinced anyone that their Christian beliefs are wrong, so why think that it is going to be likely that a conversation with a JW will have them agreeing that you are right and they should leave the organisation. It still comes as a surprise that she was so unaffected as to still press for you to come to the memorial after all that.

Still, this conversation may plant a seed that at some later point has an affect.