Posts by Hellrider

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Corrupting historical facts

by Hellrider in

at the university of oslo, norway, there is a professor, who is also a jw.

he does not even have a degree in history, he is a professor in semittic languages, still he has now published a book (in norwegian and english, and it`s going to be translated into lots of other languages also):.

http://folk.uio.no/rolffu/chronlgy.htm.

Hellrider

At the University of Oslo, Norway, there is a professor, who is also a JW. He DOES NOT even have a degree in history, he is a professor in semittic languages, still he has now published a book (in norwegian and english, and it`s going to be translated into lots of other languages also):

http://folk.uio.no/rolffu/Chronlgy.htm

...in which he is "challenging" the accepted view of Babylonian chronology. This is done in attempt to discredit serious historians, and spread doubts about their work on Babylonian chronology. The whole purpose of this is of course to make the 607bc-date more plausible. The unfortunate part of this, is that he nowhere reveals that he is a JW, and it`s not even common knowledge in the academic environment, and there is a danger that some will see his book and work as "real" scientific work. This is one of the reasons for me posting this: People must be aware, if they come across this book, that the author is a JW, with a clear "religious-political" agenda! It sickens me that he is allowed to do this, though, I don`t know if he has been given state funds, but he probably has. This is what happens when science goes bad!

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updated Berry Verdict WT LOSES PUBLIC OPINION

by DannyHaszard in

the first thread got scrambled i post again.

[they carried the same bold concord monitor management editorial.

] state's child abuse lawneeds improvement.

Hellrider

the question becomes why aren’t the church’s leaders facing criminal charges?

...the only way to stop the WTs current policies on child abuse, would be just that: Make them face criminal charges. Prison sentences would do the job,that way there would be NO way for them to hide behind the "it is and was the familys decision whether or not to go to the police" - argument/apology, which they always come up with after being caught. Send them to prison, and let the other inmates know why they are there. That would be a private little "armageddon" for each and every one of them!

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God's Guitar Hero[s]

by sixsixsixtynine in

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i bet it's hendrix.

Hellrider

King and Hanneman of Slayer (although they are probably Satans guitar heroes)

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Another letter from WBTS re: UN Scandal

by Gadget in

quite a while ago i mentioned to my parents about the un scandal but they didn't seem too interested, but when i called in the other day my mother mentioned it to me again.

they had a elder and his wife (family friends who i was previously very very close to) staying with them for the convention and discussed it with them.

the elders wife is a very strong personality and super-spiritual but when she heard of the scandal back in spring she had a huge problem with it.

Hellrider

However, this Scriptural position does not condone any form of disrespect toward governments or their officials. The Bible clearly states: "Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. Therefore he who opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God

WTF?! The governments and the UN stand placed in their relative positions by God? I thought this was Satans world, at the moment, cause God had allowed Satan to ravage the earth and "tempt humanity" now in these last days? And now they say that these authoroties has been placed there by God? So God placed the scarlet-colored beast/United Nations there?

Now I`m really confused...

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Gods Hero[s]

by Norm in

those who are believers and worry about meeting gods standard for moral, ethics and general behavior seem to have very little to worry about.

at least if we are to take the bible serious.

most christians seems to be very selective in such matters.

Hellrider

Upright and just is he a God with whom there is no injustice. Could that be what faith is?

Ok, that`s ok. That`s fair. With that sentence, you just said that "it can`t be explained, at least not so that a human could understand it". And that`s ok. I wish JWs (and all the other religions too, for that matter) would say that a lot more often, rather than try to "prove" their religion, or "explain it". (the WT even tries proving their religion scientifically, a hundred years after all other christians on earth realised that that couldn`t be done, on the contrary, science could so easily argue against, almost disprove, their faith.).

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And the tree fell

by startingover in

in the middle of the night, a tree in my yard split and half of it fell right across the street.

so early this morning i was up cutting it up and getting it out of the road.. now as i was doing this i started thinking about the noah story and what it would take to build something out of wood as large as the ark was described to be.

now i had a chain saw that made relatively quick work of it, but i can tell you that even a 2 foot piece of green lumber is quite heavy.

Hellrider

Well, the Bible says he had a lot of time to do it. Noah was warned about the flood 120 years before it happened. Give me 120 years and a handful of workers, and I`ll build a big ship too...however...wasn`t this before the age of iron and bronze? Or am I mistaken? Building it with stone-axes, that wouldn`t work at all!

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Gods Hero[s]

by Norm in

those who are believers and worry about meeting gods standard for moral, ethics and general behavior seem to have very little to worry about.

at least if we are to take the bible serious.

most christians seems to be very selective in such matters.

Hellrider

Hellrider it seems to me by your comments that you are not really that interested in knowing .

...knowing? Or accepting an unlogical argument? My point was: Clearly, the Bible says that God supports, even commands, the Israelites to slay the non-Israelites (philistines, canaanites etc), killing each and every one of them, and "salt the earth" where they lived, and take their land.The question is: God, as Creator of all things, created these philistines and canaanites too...some of their ancestors must have obviously strayed from the "straight and narrow" as they clearly don`t worship YHWH any more. But is this the fault of their descendants? Why whould a GOD that is infinite, omnipotent and GOOD allow, even support, something like this to happen? Why would he bless ONE tribe, and sentence all the others to death, as they were all humans, descendants of Adam and Eve? (seen from an atheist-perspective, although I`m not a 100 % atheist, the likely and logical answer is of course that he was not anyones god at all, just an invention by the Israelites, as THEIR God, and then of course he would be on their side no matter what grotesque acts they might do). I am really interested in an explanation on this point, and if you can provide one, I`m not going to ridicule neither you or your answer.

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A Religion in Massive Denial ( Wt 8/15)

by metatron in

the latest watchtower contains one of those statements that makes you gasp in astonishment.

in the main study article.

it says that jehovah's witnesses have "been labeled false prophets" - and that they are accused of being out of touch with reality,.

Hellrider

This is the piece of logic that I just cannot fathom. ; How can people not see this?

...reaching back into the JW-mindset that I grew up with, their response to that would be "no, we`re not prophets, we just interpret the Bible, and there`s no rule against that in the Bible..." ...but the problem is that they actually in several issues of their publications claim to be Gods prophet on earth, that God is using them as their "channel" (and what is someone used as Gods channel, if not a prophet?!), it was even stated once that angels were the messengers of God, that brought the "divine lights" to the WTBTS. Thats the problem...but try showing the average JW one of those publications...they`d dismiss it as fabrications. It`s ridicolous.

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Another letter from WBTS re: UN Scandal

by Gadget in

quite a while ago i mentioned to my parents about the un scandal but they didn't seem too interested, but when i called in the other day my mother mentioned it to me again.

they had a elder and his wife (family friends who i was previously very very close to) staying with them for the convention and discussed it with them.

the elders wife is a very strong personality and super-spiritual but when she heard of the scandal back in spring she had a huge problem with it.

Hellrider

...pic from watchtower of the harlot riding the beast...with the UN-building in the background! http://www.jwfiles.com/art/Babylon1963p577.htm

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Another letter from WBTS re: UN Scandal

by Gadget in

quite a while ago i mentioned to my parents about the un scandal but they didn't seem too interested, but when i called in the other day my mother mentioned it to me again.

they had a elder and his wife (family friends who i was previously very very close to) staying with them for the convention and discussed it with them.

the elders wife is a very strong personality and super-spiritual but when she heard of the scandal back in spring she had a huge problem with it.

Hellrider

Ok...They taught that the UN is the wild beast of Revelation. ; What are they doing having any contact whatsoever with the beast...even if it was only to use the Library....in the first place

EXACTLY! "Hi there Satan...yeah, just in to use your library..yeah sure, we`ll go out for drinks afterwards..."