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  Dansk is in the hospital --- emails from Claire

  by Alleymom in

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  dansk (ian) is in the hospital.

  as you know, he posted to us on wednesday morning (after the tuesday night vigil) saying that he felt very bad.

  claire ended up having to go home from work because he was feeling so weak and having some trouble breathing.. here are her emails.

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  Carol

  ((((((((((((Ian and Claire)))))))))))

  Thoughts and Prayers are with you, thank you for taking the time to keep us posted....we care!

  Carol
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  I married a JW

  by out of the box in

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  2. experiences

  i had stated before that i escaped a worldly abusive man and went into the 'truth'.

  i got baptised after a year and then a few young men were approaching me as 'marriage' material.

  when i think back i was pushed into baptism because it was time, i had been studying 'long enough' as the girl who studied with me said.. the ministerial servants came to the house 'with the perspective man' in tow.

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  Carol

  I am sooo glad I faded in the 70's, I missed a lot of this madness! I'm also so sorry to hear about your forced marriage, but as you've said you were at least blessed (I still believe in Jehovah, but not the WTB&TS) to have your children!

  Welcome aboard, this is a great group and it's really great to have a place to vent and share!

  Carol
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  Interesting Happenings In Mormons In Australia

  by jschwehm in

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  from abc australia: .

  well theres a storm currently brewing in the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints in australia, commonly known as the mormons.

  simon southerton is a molecular biologist at the csiro in canberra, and hes also a former bishop in the mormon church.

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  Carol

  I hate to say this, but having dated a former Morman for the past twelve years......the Morman's have it all over the JW's when it comes to shunning. Picture this, the man I'm dating is 65 his father was excommunicated when he was 8 or 9 years old (56 years ago), has been dead for twenty years and when we went to visit his hometown in Mississippi, so of his older family and family friends mentioned his late father's excommunication and not attending his funeral because of it!

  By the way, he was excommunicated all those years ago because he questioned those in the organization higher up than him and he was a deacon (?) Go Figure!
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  WT teachings clearly racist, anti-female and anti-semitic

  by Grace in

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  2. friends

  someone else from another post directed me to have a closer look at this site:.

  http://quotes.watchtower.ca/admin-site-map.htm#beliefs.

  this site uses wt original quotes directly from the publications, so it's worth taking both a first and second look.

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  Carol

  What Danny Said!
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  Do you ever feel guilty?

  by pratt1 in

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  after reading hs topic of shunning, it got me thinking - how many people have i hurt over the years by shunning, marking, labeling as "bad association"?

  when i hear the stories of my fellow posters, it really makes me regret how super rightoeus, guillible and judgemental, i was back then, when i had no real life experience or any right to judge anyone elses choices or mistakes in life.. i know i can't change the past, but i am sincerely sorry to anyone i shunned back then and although i know my family will never change their belief in the "troof" i will always make it a point to let them know just how damaging the practice of shunning really is and how it can even lead some one to suicide.. i am sure if i had put a bullet in my head when i was dfed their view on the "troof would be different today.. by the way they never shunned me.

  "family business" clause.. is anyone else guilty of this?

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  Carol

  I usually got in hot water because I wouldn't shun. One of the reasons I left was because I don't feel the WTB&TS should have such control on our lives. I figured if Jehovah saw and knew everything....then I'd just talk directly to him and he's have to judge me accordingly when the time was right...what right did the "Committee" have to sit in judgement?
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  Daughters Prom Pic

  by Legolas in

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  here is a picture of my daughter on prom night last month.

  you have to adjust it i can't figure out how to put it in small

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  Carol

  She's absolutely gorgeous and what a dress! Her date's a cutey too. Of course I really liked her picture with Richey!
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  Grounds for divorce.

  by Norm in

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  divorce has always been a tricky thing in the watchtower world and has been subject of many articles in the literature.

  for a year - from january 1972 until december the same year, "christian" husbands could technically screw anything with a pulse in the animal world without giving his spouse a "biblical" reason to divorce him.

  the only thing he had to be careful about if having sex with humans - men or women was to use the "rear entrance".

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  Carol

  Well the way I always read that scripture....only men can get scriptural divorces if their wiveshave sex with other men, it says nothing about a problem with the wive having sexual relationships with other women and men well they can do it with anyone or anything and it doesn't matter....because I've yet to read a scipture that gives grounds for women to divorce their husbands. So women are screwed no matter how you look at it!
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  The next cover-up or scandal?

  by kwintestal in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  my personal thoughts are this.

  with the population aging and with jw's becomming incresingly poor, there will be a lot more elder abuse, and i don't mean congregation elders, but elderly people.. does anyone know of this taking place in the congregations?.

  kwin

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  Carol

  The WTS has for many, many years strong armed it's members....particularly the wealthy ones and property owners to leave their possessions to the Society or Congregation. One elderly sister in my old congo owned the 5 acres in front of the acreage the KH sat on....she went to the CO and asked him to go to a lawyer and have a Deed prepared so she could convey it to the congo, retaining life rights to live in the house.......he never did it and when she passed away, the congo had to buy it from her niece and nephew (non-JW's) because they needed the parking and space to put an addition on the KH. In order to pay for the purchase the CO hit up two brothers in the congo, one a Dentist the other a Builder (they were wealthy), never telling them that if he had done his job and the congo had spent $500.00 two years earlier it wouldn't have cost $50,000.00 to buy what had been given to the congo as a gift. I know this is factual, because I was in my early twenties and sat at the dining table with both parties and offered the CO my services as a paralegal........he informed me that the congo had an attorney they used for things like this!

  The JW's for the most part take, take, take and rarely (I'm not saying never) do they take care of the "widows and fatherless boy" (i.e. elderly, children with non-JW parent).
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  Discipline or Child Abuse?

  by Dimples in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i remember spanking my son when we used to attend meetings and conventions because he cried and just wouln't sit still.

  i was told that he had to be disciplined so he would learn to behave and learn what was being said from the platform.

  now that i look back i realize that that was child abuse and i feel so horrible about it.do you feel guilty for spanking your kids during meetings and conventions?

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  Carol

  Undercover, I think I have to agree with you. I had a father (non-JW) that would swing first and ask questions later and a mother (JW) that would not only take you to the Ladies room and smack the snot out of you, but would then go home and have dad do the same thing!

  My son (now 30) was one of those children that all you had to do was look at him, or tell him how disappointed you were in him and he'd shape up (not at meetings didn't go after 18 months old). His manners are wonderful and he's a pretty good kid!

  My daughter however, (now 17) has been impossible from day one.....no "time outs" for her, 30 seconds after she mis-behaved she didn't remember what she had done, let alone why she was being punished.....but a threat of the "wooden spoon" was usually enough to straighten her out and if not then 3 or 4 smacks on the fatty part of the fanny was enough to ensure she would never repeat the action (I'm talking about actions like..running into the street.....playing with matches.......or any other life endangering practice she enjoyed).

  I personally feel for all of the young mothers at the KH when their children are just being normal kids.....the KH I used to attend had a library (used as 2nd school) with a large glass window.....this room was very popular with the mothers as they could hear the meeting.....and no one could hear their kids.........! I think every KH should have a children's room...
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  What quenches your thirst the most?

  by JH in

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  what do you like to drink, other than water, that quenches your thirst, when you're extrememely thirsty?.

  beer?.

  gatorade?.

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  Carol

  I though the question was what quenched our thirst most....other than water....?

  Sweet Tea w/ lots of ice.....or White Merlot w/ lots of ice!