Posts by chasson

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Watchtower Custom Prints Bibles for Babylon (1992)

by cabasilas in

i started a thread on this many years ago but did not have the documentation ready.

i recently unearthed the documentation and have put it into a pdf.. back about 15 years ago my best friend worked for a christian book store.

he used to order foreign bibles for the store and one evening i was thumbing through a thai bible on the shelf and was dumbstruck.

chasson

Good Work Cabasilas... as usual !!! Bye Charles

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Announcement Letter of Russell's Death

by startingover in

i found this original letter in my families archives.

don't know why the second page is discolored but it's original.. it's interesting the mention of the toga on the second page, and that they called the magazine "the tower".

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WTBTS Official Testified in the US Congress that Rutherford is Inspired

by Leolaia in

mr. goux.

chasson

Yes, Leolia you have find an interesting connexion. Thanks a lot !!! Bye Charles

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Rare books by "John H. Paton"--PDFs!

by Atlantis in

rare books by john h. paton--pdfs!

here are some rare books by "john h. paton" which (day dawn), were books that charles russell based his "millennial dawn" books on, and some other books by paton.

click the (yellow) download button at the bottom left of the next page of the (filesend) links.

i have a lot of consolation magazines that i could scan.. if you want a particular issue for research, tell me and i will scan it, and you can tell to the board more what are your research, so everybody will have more insight.. .

here is one of this magazine concerning the madison square garden incident.

this incident is connected with the olyn moyle's trial and it is interessant to see the vision of rutherford concerning this.. he tried in this magazine to excuse the usher, because what he said on stage was "the word of jehovah", so nobody must stop the "spreading of the word of god".

chasson

I have not find the second part of "Jesuit's destroyers" but here is another one Consolation on Jesuits.

Consolation September 17, 1941

Bye

Charles

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Consolation on Demand

by chasson in

i have a lot of consolation magazines that i could scan.. if you want a particular issue for research, tell me and i will scan it, and you can tell to the board more what are your research, so everybody will have more insight.. .

here is one of this magazine concerning the madison square garden incident.

this incident is connected with the olyn moyle's trial and it is interessant to see the vision of rutherford concerning this.. he tried in this magazine to excuse the usher, because what he said on stage was "the word of jehovah", so nobody must stop the "spreading of the word of god".

chasson

Another one, mention of Beth-Sarim by Judge Rutherford just before his death:

Consolation November 26, 1941

Bye

Charles

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Consolation on Demand

by chasson in

i have a lot of consolation magazines that i could scan.. if you want a particular issue for research, tell me and i will scan it, and you can tell to the board more what are your research, so everybody will have more insight.. .

here is one of this magazine concerning the madison square garden incident.

this incident is connected with the olyn moyle's trial and it is interessant to see the vision of rutherford concerning this.. he tried in this magazine to excuse the usher, because what he said on stage was "the word of jehovah", so nobody must stop the "spreading of the word of god".

chasson

New Scans:

Consolation August 21, 1940

and

Consolation December 20, 1944

Bye

Charles

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Consolation on Demand

by chasson in

i have a lot of consolation magazines that i could scan.. if you want a particular issue for research, tell me and i will scan it, and you can tell to the board more what are your research, so everybody will have more insight.. .

here is one of this magazine concerning the madison square garden incident.

this incident is connected with the olyn moyle's trial and it is interessant to see the vision of rutherford concerning this.. he tried in this magazine to excuse the usher, because what he said on stage was "the word of jehovah", so nobody must stop the "spreading of the word of god".

chasson

New Scans:

Consolation August 21, 1940

and

Consolation December 20, 1944

Bye

Charles

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5000 PAGES OF DOCUMENTS OF JW PEDOPHILE CASES AVAILABLE! B ANDERSON BOOK

by Seeker4 in

barbara anderson has just released a new book on cd that contains some 5000 pages of public court records from the nine lawsuits involving 16 victims that the wts settled secretly in may of this year, plus documents from two other cases the society settled in 2000 and 2006.. .

its called secrets of pedophilia in an american religion: jehovahs witnesses in crisis.. .

the book, and more info from barbara about it, is available here:.

chasson

YES !!! It is arrived today, thanks to Nathan Nathas for his help !!! Bye Charles

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John Denham Parsons and the cross/stauros issue

by chasson in

in a lot of articles of the watchtower concerning the cross/stauros issue is cited a book called "the non-christian cross" from john denham parsons.. perhaps it has still been talked here, but i have made some google search and i have found that this men has written another book called "the nature and purpose of the universe" speaking about reincarnation and other 'spiritist' topics, this man was member of the society for psychical research in 1905. you can find what this society was here.. so as m. greber for the nwt, is this another case of a "spirit-medium" who has served as reference for the watchtower ?.

bye.

charles.

chasson

Well for example, M. Parsons when he quote Livy (28:29,11) has seriously mixed the latin word crux with the latin word palus. It is really important because this is an argument that the writer of the Watchtower has taked from Parsons. They have tried to show that before Constantin the latin word 'crux' mean simply a 'stake', and that the writings of Livy show this meaning, without citing them explicitly.

In fact the Watchtower's writer cites Parson:

"A reference, for instance, to the writings of Livy, will show that in his time the word crux, whatever else it may have meant, signified a single piece of wood or timber; he using it in that sense" (The Non-Christian Cross Chapter II)

The quote of Parsons is Livy Chapter 28 par. 29, here it is in french, sorry:

"on les traînait nus au milieu de la place; en même temps, on montrait tous les préparatifs du supplice; les condamnés furent attachés au poteau (palus in latin and not cross), battus de verges et frappés de la hache, tandis que la crainte paralysait à tel point les assistants, qu'on n'entendit pas un mot un peu fier contre la rigueur de la peine, ni même un gémissement. (12) " Livy

So Parsons and the Watchtower's writers who has cited Parsons (without mentionned it) are terribly false, Livy made the difference between stake (palus) and cross (crux), here an exemple in the same chapter where crux is used instead of palus (still in french):

tandis que les gens de Gadès rejetaient la faute sur une ruée de la foule, irritée par certains pillages commis par les soldats qui s'embarquaient, il attira à une entrevue les sufètes (ce sont les plus hauts magistrats chez les Carthaginois) et le questeur de Gadès, les fit battre de verges et mettre en croix (cross and not palus); (3) puis il passa avec ses vaisseaux dans l'île de Pityusa, éloignée de cent milles environ du continent; des Carthaginois l'habitaient alors. (4)

1/ Livy has not used cross in place of "stake" as Parsons said and the Watchtower's writers after him.

2/ On the opposite, Livy has clearly show a difference between a stake (palus) and a cross (crux) in latin.

Bye

Charles