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  Cyril Lykkebo Malka

  by Kent in

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  hi folks .

  a guy named cyril lykkebo malka, who made a lot of trouble with the danish support group for ex-jws, is making trouble for every ex-jw website who carries material printed by the danish christian newspaper "kristelig dagblad".. malka, it seems, seeks up these sites, and the journalist sends threats to the webowners about removing the material.. on malka's own website, http://www.malka.dk you will find that this joker steals material as anybody else, and he's been stealing lots of material from the watchtower observer, like documents from the hlc, pay attention, and other material.. he never tells anyone where he got the material, but he does write some interesting stuff:.

  he publishes material printed in african newspapers (translated), and tells his readers kristelig dagblad has printed this story "slightly changed"!.

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  Hi Cyril,

  The time to find out of it, to find out of what happened, to pay, etc. it took about a month's time

  Well, i think you oversimplified the problem. If i remember some discussion on newsgroup, this has taked a lot of month because you have had some problems with a provider who could not host dk's domain.

  Now I think people should be aware that you, here again, agree with and support Scientology, which is the group having troubles with me (you bet!) and which is the "minority" which big, bad, ugly France is bothering so much.

  Unfortunatelly, Soren wrote me the same day that he was agreed with me, that this mister Jordan was perhaps a scientologist and that we must be cautious with this man. What it is true is that Soren love you so much, that he has not publicly said that, but love is love, Cyril, and you have all this years made diligent effort to be loved by us.

  Yes, we are glad and proud to know that people like you and Scientology finds us bad, evil, terrible and else...

  Not bad, Cyril, only to proud of you and your works, of course when this is your work and not the work of others that you present as yours ;-)

  Bye

  Charles

  Edited by - chasson on 6 December 2002 4:49:51
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  Oz got an email from watchtower.org - or did he?

  by ozziepost in

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  i received this email today: .

  < [email protected]>

  [email protected]

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  chasson

  Hi all,

  It is easy to hide our real identity by changing the e-mail adress of a sender in an e-mail. Look the Ip adress in the header of the message. We can trace the guy who make that with this information.

  Bye

  Charles
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  Bill Bowen's unfortunate attack

  by Jim Penton in

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  like carl olof jonsson, this is the first time i have ever written to this forum.

  i have decided to do so, however, because i am saddened at what bill bowen has chosen to do in reference to ray franz.

  let me say that i given bill full marks for publicizing an issue child abuse and the watchtower cover up of it and for taking a stand that has cost him a great deal personally.

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  Hi Jim,

  finally, I want to reply briefly to the gentleman from France. Yes, I know what is taking place in France. I have read the reports of the commision, have read the new anti-cult (secte) law and think that both are infamous. When the Jesuits, the Quakers, the Salvation Army, Baptists, and any number of other long-standing religious groups are so stigmatized, I feel there is something wrong with the heads of members of the French Parliament.

  This is nothing more than scientology's propaganda that US' s commission has believed. Jesuit, Quakers, Baptist and Salvation Army were not on the 173 'cult list and the french's parliament has decided to stop to make list there are two years ago.

  So, your information are TOTALLY FALSE and are coming from scientology, how a US's commission could take some stupid information is surprising me.

  Bye

  Charles
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  Bill Bowen's unfortunate attack

  by Jim Penton in

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  like carl olof jonsson, this is the first time i have ever written to this forum.

  i have decided to do so, however, because i am saddened at what bill bowen has chosen to do in reference to ray franz.

  let me say that i given bill full marks for publicizing an issue child abuse and the watchtower cover up of it and for taking a stand that has cost him a great deal personally.

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  Chasson, Jim is by no means an apologist for cults.

  I know, i just pointed that he use an argument that scientology has forged against france. He must be more informed on the situation in France, that's all.

  I thought he made that clear. Both he and I both believe that the terms, cult, mind control, and brain washing, are over used, rarely apply, especially the terms mind control and brain washing. There are other points of view than Singer's regarding brain washing. In fact, there is no empirical evidence that brain washing works, with perhaps a few rare exeptions.

  I agree with this view, and i think that perhaps all anticultist in France are agreed with you and Jim. Unfortunatelly scientology has tried to diffame the french's government in the US and reading Jim's comment one could see scientology has succeeded in their agenda. We don't believe in France that "brainwashing" is a very good theory.

  Bye

  Charles
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  Bill Bowen's unfortunate attack

  by Jim Penton in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  like carl olof jonsson, this is the first time i have ever written to this forum.

  i have decided to do so, however, because i am saddened at what bill bowen has chosen to do in reference to ray franz.

  let me say that i given bill full marks for publicizing an issue child abuse and the watchtower cover up of it and for taking a stand that has cost him a great deal personally.

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  chasson

  However, the anti-cult movement is going full tilt in Europe today with France having declared some 173 different religions cults (sectes) and having passed draconian legislation against them.

  Hi Jim,

  Explain me the link you have made with french's anticultist movement and "brainwashing" ? I am french and i don't find any link. The scholarship like Singer who has made the brainwashing's theory are not a part of the anticultist's movement in french.

  Second could you explain me the "french's draconian legislation" ? This is a typical argument made by some scientologist's apologist with no argument and unfortunatelly the US's comission has believed it !! The french's JW has made a tract on this subject, it was a deliberate misinformation from Watchtower. For a comment on this tract, which is the same as the scientology's argumentation, see in french:

  http://www.chez.com/tjrecherches/MILStract.html

  I hope that your comment are only a comment from someone who is more concerned in chronology, historic or bible's studies and who don't know exactly what it is happened in france and that you will be more prudent in the future.

  Bye

  Charles
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  Cyril Lykkebo Malka

  by Kent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi folks .

  a guy named cyril lykkebo malka, who made a lot of trouble with the danish support group for ex-jws, is making trouble for every ex-jw website who carries material printed by the danish christian newspaper "kristelig dagblad".. malka, it seems, seeks up these sites, and the journalist sends threats to the webowners about removing the material.. on malka's own website, http://www.malka.dk you will find that this joker steals material as anybody else, and he's been stealing lots of material from the watchtower observer, like documents from the hlc, pay attention, and other material.. he never tells anyone where he got the material, but he does write some interesting stuff:.

  he publishes material printed in african newspapers (translated), and tells his readers kristelig dagblad has printed this story "slightly changed"!.

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  I am wondering whether this guy is himself believing the crap he is writing or it is only a calculated action to harm some groups in support of other interests. In both cases, I think, using his own terminology, he can be qualified of evil "psychopath".

  Mister Jordan,

  Perhaps i am disagree with mister Malka on several points, but i can say that your explanation of the psychology of Mister Malka is false, he is not a "psychopath". I have a bad feeling reading your post, perhaps you are a member of scientology or another cult...

  Bye

  Charles
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  JanG - You're a Legend!

  by Beck_Melbourne in

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  i received this email only seconds ago and i'm just passing it on to those that knew jan, i have no other details:.

  jan groenveld will no longer be a part of these forums.

  she passed away in her sleep last night.

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  chasson

  Too bad... Too bad...

  Charles
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  WT. Pays $30,000 Pollution Fine

  by JWrobot in

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  chasson

  Now the story is in french:

  http://www.chez.com/tjrecherches/wtpollute.htm

  Bye

  Charles
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  France: Media will be sooninformed of Child Abuse

  by chasson in

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  a french association of jw's victim will informed the media about the child abuse and the silentlambs march in october, 1.. this is the first official declaration of an association fighting's cult in france on child abuse among jw.

  i hope that it will be a start.. .

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  Hi Celia,

  All I meant was that the media hadn't picked up on the child molestation issue yet in France.

  I think that there are severals explanation on this issue.

  First, we have in France some "mainstream" association regarding the problem of sect. The media take their information directly to this kinf of association, so if the association don't talk about a subject, the media too. Now, this is a "mainstream" association which will begin to talk about this subject. An individual ex-jw like me and others don't interest the media.

  Second, i think we are culturally a "catholic" 's country, the problem of pedophilia has begun inside the catholic's church here and elsewhere, some anticultist have some problems to link the pedophilia among the JW, because this is not a specific problem of sect.

  Bye

  Charles
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  Courtesy of silentlambs.org

  by qwerty in

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  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37399&site=3

  qwerty

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  chasson

  It will be translated in french soon...

  Bye

  Charles