what's new about the information in it?
a friend gave me a copy to read, nothing new in it for me.
you find anything new?
Ohhhhhhhhhh what I REALLY liked was how one of the comments made about the book was how the first 5 pages are designed to start a bible study without the person at the door realizing thats what you're doing.
And there was emphasis from the platform about how too some people may not believe the bible is inspired by God, yet later on of course there are scriptures to back up the beliefs.
They are trying to simplify the messege again.
Be afraid, be very afraid.
i was assimilated at birth... .
my maternal grandparents came to england in the early 1940s, and learnt the troof here.
my grandfather opposed my grandmother for a while, but then he decided it wasn't worth the fight and studied the blue "troof book" and my grandparents got baptised at the same assembly.
Hung by my toes and dripped dried in it.
Baptized at 11.
DF'd 21, went back because of family.
Working on grand finale exit now.
i am slowly ramping up the wheels of apostacy and have begun telling a few people to help brace the fallout of me telling my wife.
i have many relatives that aren't jws - both on my side and on my wife's side.
i've already told my dad (who was never a jw - to which i am eternally grateful), and some nonjw business people that i am also friends with.. my wife's brother was never a jw.
*Cheers*
Ithink, I'm in a very similar situation where almost everyone in my life with the exception of the family and JW's around me know I'm leaving.
I have been out one time before so its a little easier on me because I already know the reactions from my family, and it really helps that I have one sister who has been out for about 6 years.
Obviously still its going to be hard as I was born relying on the org for everything support wise, which is funny since they never did support me in any of my times of true need.
Congrats to you, huge steps. So you'll be my apostate sibling in the sense that we exit for once and all around the same time, though I'm holding off til after september 1st because thats when my main support returns to town, which I will need.
so i have seen many anti experience threads etc.
my father (a jw elder) has had several businesses for a number of years.
(thanks dad i'll follow your example really well and become an excellent business person.
Carol:
I love the "sign" matching idea that alone may make them think theres demons at the place.
i just wanted to start this thread to vent out about how i'm being forced to go to the district assembly convention bullcrap twice all 3 days and to get a little advice on how to get out of it.
but mainly it would be interesting to know how other people got out of going to the meetings.
like acting sick, falling down and scraping your knee, different ways you got out of going to it.
I have frequent bouts of depression due to my divorce. That shuts up my fam super quick.
please complete all the questions on this form.
the first 144,000 will receive first prizes of everlasting life.
runners up the possibility of everlasting life under threat of death at any time.
Women must cover their heads when helping men to make sense of this form.
May I use a diaper as a head covering? Seriously some women were counseled for doing just that.
And I'm presently going to meetings and don't want to think to answer these, so my open eyed sleep sessions are working.
jehovah's witnesses demand complete opening of finacial records to public!
they want to see where the money is going and since the governinng body is the head part of the faithful and discrete slave they should humbly and willingly comply in the intrests of christian unity.
what if someone started a champiagn like that were they sent emails and letter to circulate throughout the entire brotherhood.
How many add on resolutions are financial?
Because it was recommended to me by Joannadandy, who is a real life ex jw I grew up with. And because it provides and outlet for some questions, as well as a chance to share my experiences with people who have been there too.
this is an opinion column that i came across from the grrrr section at foxnews.com:.
link for full story is below, but you may appreciate this.. this grrr!
column is about forgiveness.
This is an opinion column that I came across from the Grrrr section at foxnews.com:
Link for full story is below, but you may appreciate this.
This Grrr! Column Is About Forgiveness
I know it's easier to say than to do, but as terrorists are busy blowing up innocent civilians who pay their taxes, work hard to provide for their families, thrive on freedom and love their fellow men, it's time to look at the person who has hurt you the most in your life — and forgive them their trespass against you.
I'm not talking about the lower-than-life terrorists here. They can burn in hell for all I care. And I'm not talking about the Oblivions who are the source of daily Grrrs — they'll never go away.
I'm talking about the husband or wife whose eye wandered too far one night. I'm talking about the father or mother who disowned their child because they married the "wrong" person or have the "wrong" political or religious beliefs. I'm talking about sisters and brothers and the college roommates who haven't spoken to each other for years and can't even remember why.
It's high time we remember where we came from and who helped us get from there to here.
Each and every one of us in America is lucky to be in a country where freedom is a given.
Sure, things aren't always grand. We question our leadership at times. We question our lives' paths at times. But at least we have the freedom to choose those paths.
And right now, the path to healing whatever ails you is to forgive, and to love your family, your closest friends, your co-workers and your neighbors.
With that choice you will find peace within. It's really that simple.
You can even start this process by focusing on the thing that worries you the most.
Is it credit card debt that keeps you up at night? Believe it or not, financial freedom will do wonders for your health.
Is it the bottle of wine that you can't seem to avoid? Cutting down on alcohol, and on eating for the sake of eating, will not only help you feel better physically, it will also help you feel better about yourself.
I don't mean to sound preachy, but I noticed recently that most of the problems I have with my life have to do with me, and only me. I can choose to love unconditionally, or I can choose to nitpick all the way to my grave.
I choose the former from now on.
But that doesn't mean I'll stop Grrring the little things that drive us nuts day in and day out. The little things are fun.
It's the big things that are hard to deal with, and that need the most attention.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,162181,00.html
I just thought it had some really good points, some things that the lack of real love by forcing family members to choose between being stuck somewhere they don't wish to be or having a relationship with family.
And especially for those of us who were raised as witnesses, but who had parents who became them by choice, they got the opportunity to choose, why should we be penalized for wanting the same?
one of matt's friends got me a furby over the weekend off of ebay.
i wanted one as soon as i remembered a jdub telling me that they were forbidden...i never knew why...does anyone know?
i played with it all day monday...i couldn't find any reason why the jdubs would ban them.... .
Then I'll give them mini watchtowers and turn them on. That'll be good fun to scare people.
