Posts by Rayvin

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When believers attack!

by daystar in

people often react most defensively when challenged not on their firmly held beliefs but on beliefs they wish were true but suspect at some level to be false.... .

- christopher f. chabris.

* snagged from an acquaintance's site as i thought it might be of interest here.

Rayvin

I would think that no matter what you are talking about..if you tell someone that what they have believed all this time is wrong you may deal with thier harsh reaction.

Telling someone " Btw.. 20 yrs ago I adopted you" would get a violent reaction as well. You rock someones world with info they may not be ready to hear or handle.

When my ex-husband starting telling me about holidays ( he was non-jw) and how Jw logic was silly since you can trace pagen origin to almost everything ..etc. I yelled at him and ran to my closet and sat holding my knees rocking back and forth. I felt crazy! I figured he must be evil and trying to lure me away from the "truth".

Then I started hearing the same information from other people and started thinking.. "What if they are right?"

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Tattoo you?

by mrsjones5 in

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friends

ok, i've been watching the show "inked" on a&e and i think it's a really cool show about tattoo artists in las vegas.

and lately i've been thinking about getting a tattoo somewhere on my body, possiblely my lower back.

my sister has one there and i think it's really cool.

Rayvin

I have struggled with the idea of a tattoo.I am guessing from the brainwashing from being JW. Putting something on my body.. my beautiful body that god gave me.. why mark it up. On the other hand.. I REALLY WANT ONE. I have wanted one for a while. Something to do with wolves.. morphing.. night sky. Haven't decided yet.

I like Miami Ink show too.

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How to spot a millionaire!

by upside/down in

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ain't dat du sh*t?.

Rayvin

Thats funny!!..

And what mood do you think it is that men have all the time???

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????????? why am i feeling this way????????

by kittyeatzjdubs in

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i have wanted one thing for the past month or so...i don't know why i want this or what...but it's driving me crazy!!!!

ok...ready?.

i want to get pregnant....... i know that i have no business whatsoever having a child right now.

Rayvin

Man.. getting prego to save the relationship.. ugh. I hope women aren't really doing this. I was accused of doing this with a guy that was just a ... well... fling i guess. I left him and a month later found out I was prego. I didn't want him at all!!! To me that is ego talking.

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I AM GETTING MORE BOLD! (BUT I LIKE IT)

by stillAwitness in

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so i was at a friend's house (for a gathering) blah!

and i noticed she had one of those porfessional pitcures done that looked like her at prom.

i asked her about it and she said quickly "no, that was a formal i went to last year) i said "oh, so exaclty what is a formal?

Rayvin

My first thought was the Elder was behaving this way because it was YOUR son. He may have thought your son wasn't truly interested but posing as such just to poke and prod.

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????????? why am i feeling this way????????

by kittyeatzjdubs in

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friends

i have wanted one thing for the past month or so...i don't know why i want this or what...but it's driving me crazy!!!!

ok...ready?.

i want to get pregnant....... i know that i have no business whatsoever having a child right now.

Rayvin

I went through the same thing. I new logically I shouldn't but still WANTED it. I got pregnant at age 22. The second time I got prego I was 24 and I did it on purpose even though I was single mom and didn't NEED another child.

I psycho analyze myself alot and I think I may have wanted kids early because I was lonely. Not just for family but for unconditional love from someone. Also .. I may have been looking for a higher purpose for my life. It couldn't be going to a club to get drunk and seduce men. It couldn't be pioneering since I was having too many struggles w/ the JWs as it was. What greater acheivement then attempting to raise a wonderful person.

My only suggestion is to keep saying over and over again in your head that you can have kids but will choose to wait untill.. (list what you logically know you need to do). Get on the birth control shot that is good for 3 months at a time. Every time the Kid feeling creeps back in just keep saying it over and over again.

I hope this helps some.. I am here for you - to support you and whatever decision you make. But we all know emotions are hard to control and logic is the constant. ... Each decision has pros and cons.

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I AM GETTING MORE BOLD! (BUT I LIKE IT)

by stillAwitness in

jw
friends

so i was at a friend's house (for a gathering) blah!

and i noticed she had one of those porfessional pitcures done that looked like her at prom.

i asked her about it and she said quickly "no, that was a formal i went to last year) i said "oh, so exaclty what is a formal?

Rayvin

I know what you mean ! The other day 4 brothers showed up at my parents house to encourage my mom. I was there to take care of my dad who was coming home from surgery. One of them asked my mom when she was baptised and she answered " In '75 when all those other people were leaving it made room for me". !!! "mom.. what do you mean by that" (playing dumb). " oh... well in '75 alot of jws left when nothing happened". "oh" i say " like the talk 'Millions Now Living Will Never Die." A different elder spoke up saying.. " That must have only happened in the U.S. I was away when that talk came out and it didn't happen there.. only in the U.S. " Then the first brother asked mom what it was that made her leave her other religion and join JWs. She said it was the lies about heaven and hell and if her old religion could lie about that.. what else are they lying about. Bingo!. Later I told mom " that was the most intelligent statement I heard her say today! If your religion can LIE about one thing.. what else are they lying about..? mom?" She may get it but she wont do anything about it. "isn't it interesting mom.. that while you were studying to be JW they wanted you to use your Independant thinking to understand how wrong your old religion was and convert. ONce you convert you are to not use Independant thinking anymore."

Normally I wouldn't have said anything. Knowledge is Power!

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THE NEW ATTACKS ON EDUCATION ARTICLES

by kristyann in

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hey all... i'm new to this forum... i was wondering if anyone could help me out.... i have been reading all over the place that there are a bunch of new articles out attacking higher education/college.

which issues are these in?

i heard that they're in more than one issue.... is it watchtower or awake or both?

Rayvin

Your welcome! I did type it all but I enjoy doing it since I like the practice.

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What silly rules did your congregation make up?

by weinermcgee in

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elders were famous for making up stupid rules with no bible base at all as an ego trip i guess, what were some of yours?

i am not talking about the stupid rules that we all had to follow, just the congregation specific silly ones.. 1. having to button your jacket while on stage (this was later changed due to all the elders having a beer gut).

2. suits only or no privledges.

Rayvin

Two door cars meant you weren't thinking of others ... for field service.

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Ever wonder why...........

by knot4me in

jw's never get dfed for being fat?

please don't take this offensively if you are overweight, i'm a little chubby myself.

i'm not judging.

Rayvin

Gluttony of food is just excessive eating. So an elder would first have to make an understanding of what is excessive. But I would think that since no one can say for each person how much is too much to drink before you are a drunkard..they couldn't do the same for food intake. They will also say that eating to much doesn't effect judgement and put you in situations that could lead to more evil so they can't be so involved in that matter.

But for me.. man.. give me two bars of chocolate and i am a HAPPY drunkwithchocolate WOMAN!!!..