Now I lost track of this one. Is Brother Thompson still a JW? Or was he DF'd? He sounds either very defiant of the "superior authorities" or very mentally ill. Not to mention dangerous. I mean when you want to kill your own lawyer, something's wrong....
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Seattle "Brother" Curtis Shane Thompson gets life, but not in the New World
by Nathan Natas insee: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2009322781_webthompson10m.html.
thompson sentenced to life for 2004 murder.
curtis thompson, a convicted sex predator already facing life in prison for other crimes, was sentenced today to life in prison for killing a seattle woman in the sand point neighborhood nearly five years ago.. by jennifer sullivan.
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New Songbook
by snowbird ini hope this one will be dropped: jehovah our father in heaven; oh, this is a most sacred night; twas nisan 14 when your glory was seen .... i hated that song!.
sylvia.
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truthsetsonefree
That music is all control stuff and propaganda. I think about how I have pleasant memories attached to many of them, yet it's the memorized lyrics that go through my mind every so often. So I can end up humming and repeating something I not only don't believe in, but in many ways detest, such as FDS references.
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Very confused-help please
by hatchetsup injust found this board late last night and can't stop reading, it's fascinating.. let me give you a quick background of myself.
i was born a jw, never baptized, was labeled bad association when i was 12 due to having all worldy friends and smoking, lol.
i was very confused how being that young i could be labelled as that but i was.
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truthsetsonefree
Welcome hatchetsup. Never forget that freedom of choice is something that once under JW influence can be very hard to get back. You were never baptized, therefore never a JW. Be careful when down due to a traumatic loss, of getting in the sphere of influence of ANY controlling group. It is dangerous as the people who want to control have little understanding or concern for you as a person. They always have their own agendas. There are very few things as dangerous as being under the influence of those who would control you for your supposed own good.
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INSIGHT Vol 1= "Noahs grandson raped him while noah was drunk." What??
by Witness 007 inreding insight volume on "canaan" p.399-400 today i come across this unkown watchtower theory...noahs grandson canaan sexually abused noah while he was drunk!
firstly can i say....yuck, why would he...noah was 580 years old!
gen 9;22 "the expression "saw his fathers nakedness" may indicate some abuse or perversion that involved canaan is a reasonable conclusion.
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You're so right Balsam. They can't just leave well enough alone. The "Jewish publication" referred to just suggests something "abominable". WT has to do their 'here is what that term means in some other part of the Bible' and over analyze the thing. They make so many mistakes that way.
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INSIGHT Vol 1= "Noahs grandson raped him while noah was drunk." What??
by Witness 007 inreding insight volume on "canaan" p.399-400 today i come across this unkown watchtower theory...noahs grandson canaan sexually abused noah while he was drunk!
firstly can i say....yuck, why would he...noah was 580 years old!
gen 9;22 "the expression "saw his fathers nakedness" may indicate some abuse or perversion that involved canaan is a reasonable conclusion.
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it-1pp.399-400Canaan***
Following the incident regarding Noah’s drunkenness, Canaan came under Noah’s prophetic curse foretelling that Canaan would become the slave of both Shem and Japheth. (Ge 9:20-27) Since the record mentions only that “Ham the father of Canaan saw his father’s nakedness and went telling it to his two brothers outside,” the question arises as to why Canaan rather than Ham became the object of the curse. Commenting on Genesis 9:24, which states that when Noah awoke from his wine he “got to know what his youngestson had done to him,” a footnote in Rotherham’s translation says: “Undoubtedly Canaan, and not Ham: Shem and Japheth, for their piety, are blessed; Canaan, for some unnamed baseness, is cursed; Ham, for his neglect, is neglected.” Similarly, a Jewish publication, ThePentateuchandHaftorahs, suggests that the brief narrative “refers to some abominable deed in which Canaan seems to have been implicated.” (Edited by J. H. Hertz, London, 1972, p. 34) And, after noting that the Hebrew word translated “son” in verse 24 may mean “grandson,” this source states: “The reference is evidently to Canaan.” TheSoncinoChumash also points out that some believe Canaan “indulged a perverted lust upon [Noah],” and that the expression “youngest son” refers to Canaan, who was the youngest son of Ham.—Edited by A. Cohen, London, 1956, p. 47.
These views, of necessity, are conjectural since the Biblical record does not give any details as to Canaan’s implication in the offense against Noah. Yet some implication seems definitely intended by the fact that, just before relating the case of Noah’s drunkenness, Canaan is abruptly introduced into the account (Ge 9:18) and, in describing Ham’s actions, the record refers to him as “Ham the father of Canaan.” (Ge 9:22) That the expression “saw his father’s nakedness” may indicate some abuse or perversion that involved Canaan, is a reasonable conclusion. For in most instances incest or other sexual sins are meant when the Bible speaks of ‘laying bare’ or ‘seeing the nakedness’ of another. (Le 18:6-19; 20:17) So, it is possible that Canaan had committed or attempted to commit some abuse on the unconscious Noah and that Ham, though having knowledge of this, failed either to prevent it or to take disciplinary action against the offender, and compounded the wrong by making known to his brothers Noah’s disgrace.
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Oh well another cult uses it....
by mouthy inhttp://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/523105.html?nav=5021.
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Funny how many Halls are closing. So many JW and WT are being sold. One can only hope....
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The young ones are leaving in droves!!!
by 1914BS ini hear that many congos are loosing all their young dubs and now only very old dubs are left.
it seems the jws religion is dying out because there are no youngins to replace the aging ms/elder/cos .
the young dubs are very internet savy and would rather play warcraft than go out in the field circus.. i remember a wt study article a couple of years ago that was entitled" when a young person rebels" or something like that - anyone know that mag?.
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Them losing young people is definitely complicated. Everything mentioned here factors in. Something else is the quality of dub is not what it once was. Those young people who stay in aren't necessarily bringing in converts. Many of them are becoming the PT dubs just mentioned. The tree may still be standing but the interior is rotting.
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New Songbook
by snowbird ini hope this one will be dropped: jehovah our father in heaven; oh, this is a most sacred night; twas nisan 14 when your glory was seen .... i hated that song!.
sylvia.
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dobbie, I liked many of them too. I didn't throw out my cds for that reason. Of course this is ALL I was allowed to hear as a kid so there a lot of memories tied to them.
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I want to thank you
by Lady Lee infew of my threads get to 3 pages of responses and i suspect that i am the one who pushes it by responding to everyone.
who posts.. but i know people read my posts.. there have certainly been times when i needed the support and got it.
but those times are fewer now.. sometimes i feel like i am repeating myself and i probably am.
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truthsetsonefree
Your posts are exactly what this board needs. We need analytical discussion and reminder of the psychology behind this nonsense the WT teaches. It helps us to talk back rationally to it as well. Keep on posting.
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JWs and DC discussed on "The View"
by cabasilas ini don't know if this has been mentioned here yet.
i apologize if it has but i haven't seen it here.. jws and the latest district convention ("keep on the watch") was recently mentioned on "the view.
" one of the commentators is a former jw:.
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Actually it's nice to see someone who was a JW accurately describe this foolishness, yet be able to joke about it too. Let the WT publicize this nonsense. It will just make them look crazier with each passing PR campaign. They have said for years that they would step up the "warning" part of their preaching work. I hope this is it.