I haven't read RTB. Combating Cult Mind Control was very affirming for me. Ray's books confirmed all my suspicions about the "org" and then some. Steve Hassan's book affirmed my feelings on how to leave and on how to help others.
truthsetsonefree
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How key was "Releasing the Bonds" in your letting go?
by lurk3r ini finally ordered "releasing the bonds".
being a notorius procrastinator, i finally put it off long enough.ha.
cognitive dissonance.
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What can I say to JW's about Michael Jackson's life and death?
by BonaFide inas an active witness, i am still in association with witnesses in field service, meetings, and occasionally at get-togethers.
we usually go to eat at a restaurant after the sunday meeting.. so tomorrow i am sure we will be talking about michael jackson.
i live in southern california, and i know one sister in our usual group has met mj's mother, and is very supportive of her.
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Hey some in the press have him AS a JW. Maybe he should be mourned as an inactive brother.
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Did Everyone Really Love Michael Jackson? (I'm Confused)
by minimus ineveryone talked about him as being a weirdo.
a pedo.
a freak.
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The suddenness of his death is probably what is getting people. Farah was ill for a long time. She probably did more substantive good than MJ did though. As human beings we are not always rational. Emotions take over in so many situations. Which is probably why there can be such a dichotomy in how MJ is viewed, both adored and seen as strange all at once.
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Hi I hope i am welcome
by cantleave inhi guys and gals,.
i am a hypocryte.
brought up in the "truth" but know its not.
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Welcome cantleave, many here are in your situation with respect to having to remain in the "org". I empathize.
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How many here have worked in social work, etc. & DON'T think MJ was a molester?
by avishai ini mean, c'mon, people.
seriously, i admire those who want to think the best.
but the guy had just about every red flag/indicator you can have.
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He was a strange character that no one should ever have left children with. Let's say for argumentary purposes that he was not guilty. Still why allow that much unmonitored intimacy between one's child and someone so scarred? Just because he is famous is no excuse. It's asking for something to go wrong. Look at all that did happen, from porn to alcohol. I mean that's bad enough. I would rather proactively keep my child away from someone who may problems like this than take the chance. His guilt we will never know for certain. That's the nature of this type of situation. We can only have an opinion on it's probability. But that is why we need to be extra cautious with our children.
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Supreme Court Blood Case - WTS LOSES
by skeeter1 inhttp://scc.lexum.umontreal.ca/en/2009/2009scc30/2009scc30.html.
supreme court of canada.
wts loses!.
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Well Wobble, one step at a time. The wheels of justice may grind slowly, but they do grind. This is big! It's one thing for lower courts to give court orders in individual cases. That's been happening for years. But a Supreme Court in ANY Western land making a decision like this will introduce precedent. WT prides itself in Supreme Court victories. Now it has a loss to ponder. No appeals. This will trickle down for sure into other Canadian cases. I wonder how it will affect the Hughes case....
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Michael Jackson is Dead!
by slimboyfat insomeone else posted on another forum they heard on the radio michael jackson is dead.
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I have no doubt that Michael Jackson was this type of molester. I believe he truly enjoyed spending time with children. And I believe that he could have been in total denial that sexual touching was hurting the child. Sad.
This is exactly what I'm referring to COULD have been the case with MJ. He seemed so naive and out of touch that it seems plausible he could have this view. I've had this happen in my own family and have seen it firsthand.
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Michael Jackson is Dead!
by slimboyfat insomeone else posted on another forum they heard on the radio michael jackson is dead.
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Not only doesn't a settlement equate guilt, for anyone including JW elders, but MJ was not an organization with double tongued policies. He was by all accounts, a naive kid of a man, who probably lacked good judgment in many areas. His friends describe him as intensely lonely, unable to really interact with adults. Mouthy is absolutely correct. Love needs to expressed for BOTH. That is the Christian way and the humane way. In the end MJ is gone and can do no new harm to anyone, if indeed he ever did.
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Michael Jackson - Teenage Superstar Jehovah's Witness!!?...that's what killed him!
by Witness 007 inimagine being a teenage superstar....and a jehovah's witness???
poor guy must have suffered a worst mind f#ck then any of us.
teenage girls worshiped him, but i doubt he ever had one.
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There is no question that his family life, and most likely his own personal makeup, were big contributors to what he was. Perhaps even bigger than the JW's. Otherwise every person in his situation would be the same as he was. But why couldn't this "wonderful organization" help him. After all the FDS provides "food in due season". They sure missed out here. We can just imagine the conflict this poor guy went through. I doubt it's coincidence that one of the strangest brilliant people in our time was also some form of dub.
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Michael Jackson is Dead!
by slimboyfat insomeone else posted on another forum they heard on the radio michael jackson is dead.
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Interesting...CNN is listing MJ as a JW. http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/25/michael.jackson/index.html#cnnSTCOther1
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