Posts by anewme

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In Memory of Martin Luther King.....

by BlackPearl in

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sitting here listening to the o'jays with my morning coffee, remenescing about my childhood and teen years and all the great african american friends i had.

so..from a white american male, i just want to shout out my love to any and all my black brothers and sisters.

life is too short for the prejudice and hatred.. i love you guys.. bp .

anewme

Yesterday I heard a recording of one of the last speeches of Dr. Martin Luther King.
It was absolutely thrilling and most uplifting to hear him speak about his faith and
his dream of America! Now we know so well that special people like him who call for
America to wake up and make changes need to be protected from the evil element in society that wishes to
crush whistle blowers and keep the miserable status quo.

There are inequalities all throughout America. There are many worthy causes to champion.
Those voices that emerge to bring us to our senses need our support. And we must be ever
vigilant and on guard for their safety lest they too are soon silenced for their audacity
to try and create a just and free America.

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Autonomy as a JW?

by R.Crusoe in

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anewme

The reply comments made me laugh!

Like you all, I contemplated autonomy as a JW for about ........two seconds!

There isnt any autonomy as a JW.

THEY WONT LET YOU BE AUTONOMOUS! I WANTED TO BE LET ALONE TO ENJOY MY
LOVE OF JEHOVAH AND MY NEIGHBOR, BUT NO THAT IS NOT ALLOWED!

You actually hit upon why I became disenchanted with the org.

I was exhausted with all the meetings and field service, writing talks and conducting bible studies all the while taking care of a very handicapped family member.

Do you think I could stay at home just one weekend? Oh no!!! We must struggle to get to Jehovahs house through rain, wind, sleet, snow, pneumonia, broken legs, and give the number 3 talk with a fat swollen lip infection.

Do you know how many times we missed the bus after the Service Meeting and I had to push a wheelchair miles home in the dark all by myself? I cringe at the goddamn ridiculousness of it all now!!!!!!
What was it all for?????
Was I building up a bank of mercy for when I needed it most?

Believe me there was none at my JC!!!

No, there is no autonomy as a JW. To be a JW is to join a hive. There is no living away from the hive.

That is why I have now embraced buddhism and the tao. ah peace and solitude.

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What do you think of todays youth?

by dawg in

as many of you know, i live in a college town and therefore i'm around people much younger than me almost all day.

here's one thing i've noticed, the youth today have left the god of the bible behind.

they have been brought up in a world where information is available at a very rapid rate and have already figured out the biblical god is a fairy tale.

anewme

That quote from ancient times is pretty eye opening!

That shows the cry over youthful disrespect is an old one.

Remember the old prophet in the Bible who faced 40 disrespectful youth?

I too must work alongside teens and young twenty-somethings who daily surprise
and dismay me with their ungodly talk and ways.

(I actually started wearing a crucifix to ward off the evil coming from them!)

But that is the way it has been for thousands of years Dawg.

Youth is foolish and stupid and naive.

At this point, they dont value hard earned wisdom or us.

But at some point they will if they live long enough.

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disfellowshipping / disassociated

by tak in

i have been disfellowshiped, which i have mentioned before here, i was just wondering if it makes any difference if i disassociated myself now, i mean officially, with a letter, or does it make any difference?

would it also be announced, like the df'ing?

.

anewme

It is a wearisome subject, trying to trick and get around the Watchtower Organization.

"How can I fade and still keep my privileges?"

"I am dfd but I want to sit where I want to in the KH when I attend"

"I am applying for reinstatement but the elders wont make time to talk with me!"

"Im on this board regularly AND THEY JUST INVITED ME TO BE AN ELDER----HOLY SPIRIT MY ASS!"

My observation is that when you DA or get dfd you lose all your personal rights and privileges
in the Watchtower Organization. End of subject.

The elders no longer view you as a priority nor responsibility.

Holy Spirit or no holy spirit, eventually dual citizenship in The Watchtower Org and apostate websites will become known and you will have to make a choice.

You must continue to care what the Watchtower Organization thinks and remain imprisoned by that choice or stop caring and go out and live your life.

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"Special" Talk Outline for this Sunday?

by Mrs. Witness in

last night hubby told me that his brother (an elder) told him how "provocative" the outline for this sunday's special talk is.

apparently it's something like "who is qualified to rule mankind" and goes on about how government is not qualified.

he then asked me if i'd like to attend (ha ha).

anewme

Every "Special Talk" after 1975 has been a huge disappointment.
Believe me. I know because I began attending in October 1971.

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Do you believe God is guiding you throughout life?

by JH in

i believe in god, but i don't think he is guiding me or making life easier for me.. some see god in every aspect of their lives, and if there is hardship in life, god is behind this so that you can get stronger through this bad experience.. and when things go well, it's god's hand at work..

anewme

Absolutely NOT!

I used to believe this because I was told this.
But now I think this concept was told to me in order for me to remain tied to a church and contribute financially to it.

Give and you shall receive! Give to God and He will give to you.

Churches take good advantage of this concept and extract large sums of money from their members on a regular basis.

I can remain in the light and "see" what is good v.s evil in the world
or I can withdraw from the light and live in the dark and cold and fall prey to all sorts of evil and vileness.

I think God and what he stands for is a CHOICE. Call him a LIFESTYLE CHOICE.
I prefer the warmth of a godly life. I prefer the kindness, mercy and love of a more godly life.

Living the godly life has its own rewards.

Plus living the godly life leaves one with a peace of mind and heart and comfort knowing one has
followed the heart and conscience (I believe from God) and by thus doing so has fullfilled Gods
intention.

But God does not actively guide me. He does not buy me cars, or provide a house. The training comes from observing God's wisdom in nature and reading about truly godly people and doing wise things in
respectful imitation.

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Ex-JWs... feelings of isolation, agoraphobia...?

by Moxie in

hi all... :) sorry for the novel.... i'm just wondering if there are any others out there who share similar experiences as me or have any comments and insight.... when i was a jw i was very, very social and active with friends and family in a wide range of activities.

i would even have considered myself the party-starter ;).

i used to plan events and social get togethers for all kinds of situations.

anewme

Dear Moxie, what you are experiencing is absolutely normal for a person like yourself.
Yes you are experiencing the rug being pulled out from under your life.
Your life must have centered around the Witness community and your family.

You are experiencing depression and there are some great medications to help you get through the next year.

But be assured that you are the same loving individual that you always were. You looked for and found wonderful things in people among the JWs and you showed hospitality to them and made friends.

You will continue to look for the beauty in people outside the organization and you will find it.
You can begin again to rebuild a community of friends around yourself.

Just continue to be a kind, honest, loving person and good people will flock to you.
There are great people outside of the JWs too.

Isolating yourself will not be good for you, however I did move to a mountain cabin for five years right after the dfing myself. I understand the need to be alone to sort things out.

It is a terrible shock to learn the family and friends show more loyalty to an organization than to you, but that is because in their minds to shun you is wrapped up in showing love for God and their self survival. They are taught weekly that you have chosen to leave God and everything that is good when you leave their organization.

There really is nothing you can do to change their organization. But you can know that God still loves you.
Just continue to be a good person and love others and be kind and slowly rebuild your life one day at a time.

One day will turn into the next and you will look back on a new life filled with all the good things
you thought you had lost.

Pm me hon when you get down. I will try to help.

Anewme

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The Lamb

by real one in

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this thread is directed to believers and those with an open mind.

today is easter!

as i grow in my spirituality i cant help but think about the sacrafice that god made by allowing his son to die for our sins.

anewme

I think who gets saved and who doesnt is going to surprise everyone.

We are so small and puny in our understanding and mercy. We suppose
God is like us?
Do we think he will save and destroy who we tell him to?

Ha!

It will be very interesting to see who God really loves wont it?

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Went to the Memorial Last Night

by B_Deserter in

the hall i went to had some guy from bethel who literally sounded like a 12-year-old giving the talk.

all i could think about was v's video about the memorial and how it's nothing but an infomercial for jehovah's witnesses.

i realized why the memorial is "so important" to jehovah's witnesses: it's their biggest recruiting day of the year!

anewme

Be-Deserter, that was a well written report of your memorial night.
It reminded me of my last memorial, post df, when I attended in a different city.

When the rose colored glasses come off and we look at the organization and the meetings with criticism
and derision it is an uncomfortable and sad time.

The same can be said of the moment we look at Jesus as just a man who stupidly got himself crucified-----and for what?

Then just as mysteriously there comes a moment when all the jokes and laughter and criticism comes to a halt and we find ourselves staring at the cold beautiful moon, orbiting faithfully around the earth....and pondering about spiritual things.
So much comes flooding into our mind at this lonely hour about this world and its history and wars and bloodshed and virtual barges of plastic garbage floating in the seas having no where to go but to meet in the middle and pile up. Conversations with co-workers about nuclear waste come to mind...."Oh THEY will figure out how to get rid of it" they all assure me.
"Barak Obama! Hillary! McCain!" for president! They will save us!
"Olympic officials spent the evening arguing with the Chinese government over its lax efforts to clean up its city pollution for the up and coming olympics"
China, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, North Korea, India, Pakistan, United States........all vying for POWER in the next century.

Frankly, I am very sorry that I have no rose colored glasses on when looking at any of the religions these days.

a sincere prayer to our creator for help and mercy.

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Back on!! Whew!!

by nomoreguilt in

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boy, what withdrawl when the board does down.

glad to see everyone survived.

oh, and happy easter to you, for whatever it may mean for you.

anewme

While JWD was down I Googled jehovahs witness and found a number of new websites devoted to the discussion of JWs.

Very interesting. But like you, yes, I am glad this website is up and running again. It is my home while in banishment.