Posts by ThomasCovenant

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Another Lie - Watchtower December 2013

by Listener in

i just thought i would have another look at the december 2013 watchtower in light of the agm tommorrow.

slimboyfat had pointed out that even though there is a whole study article on the memorial, there is not one mention of the 144,000 (by number) and it may become new light that the number is no longer literal.. anway i came across this bold outright lie.

page 22 para 4.

ThomasCovenant

If they change the literal number 144,000 I will not be happy.

When I first started studying at about the age of 13 with the son of an elder I argued that the number couldn't be literal when all the component parts of the context scripture means it has to be figurative. I was told 'that is the belief'.

It will anger me that they will (if they do) change it not because of spiritual enlightenment but because of the mathematics of the increasing number of partakers. Just like the generation change.

I don't want them to change it. I want them to carry on looking more ridiculous. Unless, of course, it results in more leaving like the generation change.

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I guess I was ashamed of the JW religion...

by Jim_TX in

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friends

when i was a kiddo growing up, i wasn't one of those that we all heard at assemblies giving their experiences... "here, let me show you the answer from the bible..." <reaching into their a** bringing out a bible>.

no, i would sit there in the audience, and think... that person has balls to do that.. when i went to grade school, i tried to keep as low of a profile as possible.

it was bad enough that i had to start the day by not saying the pledge of allegience like all the other school kids.

ThomasCovenant

I would guess that you have summed up the feelings of the majority of children of Witnesses, including myself. Thanks.

I hate all religions and those who follow them.

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Adjustments In Understanding--2013/7/15/Watchtower!

by Atlantis in

this file is being passed around by jehovah's witnesses concerning adjustments in understanding the 2013/7/15/watchtower.

the first draft they prepared had a typing error, and nevada sent the draft back to the jws for correction.

they corrected the typing error and sent it back to nevada.

ThomasCovenant

Slimboyfat:

Do you mind me asking what it is that strikes you as a lot of fuss about nothing?

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How do believers defend a god who is going to murder billions and pin it on them?

by tootired2care in

at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.

they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.

- jerimiah 25:33.

ThomasCovenant

Tammy,

Can you not see how it may be easy for me to despise someone who would worship a god that allowed/caused a she bear to kill children?

If, that is, they chose to believe those particular few sentences in a book known today as the Bible.

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How do believers defend a god who is going to murder billions and pin it on them?

by tootired2care in

at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.

they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.

- jerimiah 25:33.

ThomasCovenant

Tammy

Do you worship the god that allowed or caused a she bear to kill children?

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How do believers defend a god who is going to murder billions and pin it on them?

by tootired2care in

at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.

they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.

- jerimiah 25:33.

ThomasCovenant

Easy.

They are as guilty as the god they worship.

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WHy Have You Turned YOur Back On The Messiah

by cassuk11 in

ok so you got out of the watchtower society after discerning it was false.

what is amazing is how many have turned their back on the king or was it they had no faith in the first place and the spiritual food they received did not help them stand upon a rock.

jesus the christ your saviour is a living breathing being with emotions.

ThomasCovenant

'' Jesus the Christ your saviour is a living breathing being with emotions.''

Does he live on somewhere with a breathable atmosphere or just the vacuum of space?

''He has nothing to do wiht religion.''

Neither do I.

''Check out my youtube channel there are over 200 videos many of them about the KIngdom which is here now cannot be seen and not made by human hands.''

I've got thousands of Youtube videos with stuff on them that cannot be seen.

''Peace adn Love''

Not from me.

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What Did Jesus Ask US To Preach About?

by Perry in

jw's repeat mt.

24:14 like a mantra.. but who was he speaking to, us gentiles in the church age?

no, he was speaking to the jews, god's covenant people.

ThomasCovenant

''What Did Jesus Ask US To Preach About?''

Nobody going by the name of Jesus has ever asked me to preach about anything.

If I was to guess though, I would say it was whatever 'Perry' says it was.

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hi everybody..

by americanboy in

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friends

hi friends,can i introduce my self?

i am luca from italy,31 years old,first off all be patience with my english....i'm working on it.... i write here cause i would like to know someone from usa e canada,my life project is to immigrate there..my collection of informations is just started,it's seems very difficult,but ,who know....maybe it could be possible :).

so,anyone want to greet me and help me?

ThomasCovenant

there have been a lot of wrong intentions, but each time, they have corrected and gone ahead..more refined..

Yes, it's great when they do that isn't it.

It does get a bit confusing sometimes though don't you think.

Sometimes I don't know what I believe today as opposed to what I used to believe yesterday or what I may have to believe tomorrow.

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Jehovah's Witness whose wife died after refusing blood transfusion is jailed for 13 years over child sex abuse covered up by religion's elders

by ThomasCovenant in

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2400938/jehovahs-witness-wife-died-refusing-blood-transfusion-jailed-13-years-child-sex-abuse-covered-religions-elders.html .

a jehovah's witness who sexually abused a child and then had his wrongdoing covered up by the church has been jailed for 13 years.. gordon leighton, 53, admitted sexually abusing a child when he was confronted with the allegations by church elders at washington, tyne and wear.. the elders knew about the 53-year-old's admissions for three years but refused to co-operate with the criminal investigation, and said what they had heard was confidential.. leighton hit the headlines in the 1990s when his wife yvonne, 28, died after refusing a blood transfusion after childbirth on religious grounds.judge penny moreland said that he had subjected his victim to 'untold damage' as she sentenced him at newcastle crown court today.. the judge said: 'you manipulated her with a combination of affection and attention and violence and threats.

'the defendant was found guilty of two charges of indecency with a child and six of indecent assault after a trial.

ThomasCovenant

''still trying to figure out what "duty to god" required them to stonewall police and protect a child abuser from receiving justice?''

Me too. This is the bit that gets me.

There are, have been, and always will be, 'evil' people in all walks of life who will take advantage of and sexually abuse children.

However, there is no need for 'good' people, assuming the three elders were 'good', to put 'duty to god' above the need to report and help local police authorities with their efforts to stop people abusing children.