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  An "Apostate" partakes at the JWs Memorial

  by dedpoet in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccote1skw8a.

  this is a video sent to me by brenda lee, the author of "out of the cocoon",.

  of her partaking of the emblems at the jw memorial last month.

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  I wouldn't personally do what Brenda did, I vowed never to enter a kh again after the
  last time I went, and I never will. Brenda hasn't been to a hall for over 20 years, so it's
  doubtful if any jws knew her anyway. They would probably have thought she is a born
  again Christian who would have partaken in line with their beliefs.

  As for being disrespectful to jw beliefs, when are they respectful to any non-jw's beliefs?
  They regard any other religion apart from theirs as false anyway, and said so specifically
  in kn37, as well as in much of their literature over the years. As purps said, we were all
  lied to by the watchtower while we were jws, so if someone decides to go to their annual
  ceremony to reject Jesus' sacrifice and have a little fun at the jws expense while they are
  there, then good for them.
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  An "Apostate" partakes at the JWs Memorial

  by dedpoet in

  1. watchtower
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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccote1skw8a.

  this is a video sent to me by brenda lee, the author of "out of the cocoon",.

  of her partaking of the emblems at the jw memorial last month.

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  dedpoet

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcoTE1Skw8A

  This is a video sent to me by Brenda Lee, the author of "Out Of The Cocoon",
  of her partaking of the emblems at the jw memorial last month. Listen out for
  the jw commercial after the ceremony.
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  Who REALLY REALLY is the "Faithful & Discreet Slave"? >>>IS<<<<

  by Mad in

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  dedpoet

  I can't see the images either Mad, but I do wish you a wonderful
  anniversary of your birth, which you CANcelebrate.
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  JWs, Higher Education and Misrepresentation by Barb Anderson

  by Dogpatch in

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  jehovahs witnesses, higher education and misrepresentation.

  footnotes and appendices and full article at:.

  http://www.freeminds.org/doctrine/education_anderson.htm.

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  Excellent article, thanks for posting it Randy

  I love this quote from the 1969 wt, which I added a little to

  “The influence and spirit of this world is to get ahead, to make a name for oneself. Many schools now have student counselors who encourage one to pursue higher education after high school, to pursue a career with a future in this system of things. Do not be influenced by them. Do not let them “brainwash” you with the Devil’s propaganda to get ahead, to make something of yourself in this world. Instead, let us do the brainwashing, and make it your ambition to be a window washer or janitor, and serving jah full-time.
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  convention etiquette

  by karvel in

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  first post, not sure if this is in the right section....anyway, last night's service meeting included a part about the upcoming district convention.

  the usual take notes, make sure your teenagers sit with you, blah,blah, blah, was there but then they mentioned something new.

  apparently now you have to wear your suit and lapel all weekend if you stay at a hotel.

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  Hi karvel, and welcome to the forum

  but if you needed any further proof that is a cult, that was it

  Very few of us on here need any further proof of that.

  The org seem to get more controlling and dictatorial every year. I'd be
  tempted to ask the elders to provide scriptural back up for this latest
  rule. I think they'd find it difficult.
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  Let the children listen to JW family members preach to them or shield them?

  by FreedomFrog in

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  i thought i'd start a new thread since my other thread was leading into a different topic.

  hopefully i can get many different views on this.

  i understand the concern not allowing children to be preach to by jw family members.

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  In the end if the relatives aren't primarily interested in the relationship with the kid other than to convert them, then what is the point of exposing them at all

  I agree with r's husbamd here.

  However your jw relatives conduct themselves around your kids, their ultimate objective will be to try and make them into jws. It's no point asking them not to preach, they feel obliged to do so. From their perspective, they are delivering a life saving message.

  Obviously, unless you stop your jw relatives from seeing your kids altogether, you can't completely prevent them from giving a witness, but I would certainly ban them from leaving any literature around.
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  Let the children listen to JW family members preach to them or shield them?

  by FreedomFrog in

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  i thought i'd start a new thread since my other thread was leading into a different topic.

  hopefully i can get many different views on this.

  i understand the concern not allowing children to be preach to by jw family members.

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  DESCRIBE HOW YOU WILL DIE

  by Terry in

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  how do you see your own demise?

  a long, slow, painful illness?

  a quick crash?

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  I'll stop breathing.
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  Can someone help?

  by bethel anorexic in

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  this is my first post.. i was wondering if someone here can help me out.. i stopped attending meetings a while ago and i'm not comfortable with the idea of having the congregation elders in possession of my publisher card and other records.

  would someone be willing to help me retrieve my records so i can just disappear completely from the jw-world?

  perhaps someone here who is a current elder or an ex-elder?

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  Hi, and welcome to the forum.

  I assume from your post that you are fading, which means that you are still a jw,
  though inactive. I am certain that the congregation can hold on to your records
  unless you officially leave, by disassociation/disfellowshipping.

  If you don't want to do that, I would just continue your fade and not worry unduly
  about your records. As for faking a move to another congregation, the secretary
  would send your records on to the new congregation if you indicated you wish
  to move, but they would still be held by the org.
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  Disfellowshipping question

  by emilyblue in

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  2. beliefs

  my ex-boyfriend who i am trying not to see anymore was disfellowshipped last monday, but he sent in a letter of appeal because he felt two the the three elders who made the decision were biased against him because they knew his ex-wife and were automatically sympathetic to the woman's side.

  he's disfellowshipped for having relations with me, even after he was divorced (before that, his divorce was unscriptural.

  ) how soon does the appeal take place?

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  This is from the "Pay Attention to yourselves and to all the Flock" book,
  the "secret" elders manual regarding disfellowshipping and appeals:

  http://www.dbhome.dk/carlo/

  If the Decision Is to Disfellowship

  Tell the guilty person the Scriptural reason(s) for the
  action.

  Inform the wrongdoer that he may appeal in writing
  within seven days if he feels a serious error in judgment
  has occurred. (om p. 147; km 1/80 p. 4)

  Outline steps necessary for future reinstatement.

  Be positive, assuring him that forgiveness is possible if he
  truly repents; the person may be in a distressed state of
  mind.

  If an appeal is lodged within the allotted time, no an-
  nouncement is made pending the outcome of the appeal.

  In the meantime the accused person will be restricted

  UNIT 5 (c) - 121

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  from commenting and praying at meetings or enjoying
  special privileges of service. (om pp. 147-8 )

  So if he has appealed, he won't be announced as being no longer one of
  jehovahs witnesses until after his appeal is heard. Like other posters, I
  think that his appeal will be unsuccessful, and the original decision to
  disfellowship him will be upheld.

  I guess I just feel guilty because I'm the one who confessed our "sin" to my bible study teacher before I understood that she was going to have to report him for what I told her.

  Emily, there is absolutely no need for you to feel guilty, you have done nothing wrong.
  He knew the wts rules when he began this relationship, and chose to flout them. You,
  as a none jw, did not know the "sin" he was committing in pursuing this relationship.
  
  From your previous posts, it seems that he practically blackmailed you into having a
  bible study anyway, implying that the only way that you two could be together is if
  you became a jw. It seems to me that you have had a lucky escape, 2 in fact, in that
  you did not become a jw and subject yourself to their rules and regulations, which would
  have included subjecting yourself to his headship. Though I don't know this man, he gives
  the appearance of being potentially very unreliable, and you will be well rid of him. You
  deserve much, much better than him.

  dedpoet