Zev,
Another excellent post!
Thanks for taking the time to put that information together.
I appreciate it.
the bible has no word or phrase referring to gods organization.
the insight books, has no specific entry for organization though 74 references are made through out the books to organization.
there are 10,218 references to organization in the witchpickle magazine.
Zev,
Another excellent post!
Thanks for taking the time to put that information together.
I appreciate it.
after much deliberation, i decided to go "out" at the end of a public talk.
it didn't go down too well, but at least i was able to give some of my reasons for leaving.. i've put some of the details on my homepage.
i'll update it more when i get the time and the strength.
Little toe,
I am bringing this back to the top for someone who can't find it.
This is an amazing story.
Thanks for taking the time to share it. I can see that it took a lot of work to put all of this information together.
just to lighten things up-.
someone sent this link to me.
james.
James, James, James,
Thanks for my laugh for tonight. Now I am going to bed.
That was a 6 minute download for me. (But I loved it)
DSL must be nice.
you may not remember, but i know you very well.
i met you a long time ago when you came to my house with your smiling faces, your neat clothes, and your soft voices, and a bible tucked neatly under your arm.
you told me many beautiful stories of a "paradise earth," and a "righteous new system" which would be established shortly.
Outaservice,
Thank you so much for posting that. It is a must read. It will be on the table for my wife to read in the morning.
I am going though a very emotional time in my life right now and this post hit very close to home for me. It was very touching.
Thanks again
just passing this on.
http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/40039.htm
Thanks JT,
I love this net Thang too.
i am a severly disabled adult who receives disability benefits.. i understand sometime ago the watchtower said in one of its magazine(probably watchtower)that a smaller pertentage(sic)of jws claimed the dole in france(this was, i believe during the problems with the french government)as opposed to a higher pertentage(sic)of roman catholic etc etc claiming the dole.. in view of what paul says in one of his letter`he that doesn't work, shall not eat' should jws be claiming the dole if they truly follow the bible.
discuss.. i believe a social security system should provide for the disabled and pensioners.
(i don't think the present uk social security system will survive in its present form with accelerting(sic)costs etc etc)
Lisa,
I ran a check on the dates given and they are the date that the social security card was issued....applied for.
That is why I feel that the date for Barry is interesting. He did not apply for his card until 1975 when he was 59.
i am a severly disabled adult who receives disability benefits.. i understand sometime ago the watchtower said in one of its magazine(probably watchtower)that a smaller pertentage(sic)of jws claimed the dole in france(this was, i believe during the problems with the french government)as opposed to a higher pertentage(sic)of roman catholic etc etc claiming the dole.. in view of what paul says in one of his letter`he that doesn't work, shall not eat' should jws be claiming the dole if they truly follow the bible.
discuss.. i believe a social security system should provide for the disabled and pensioners.
(i don't think the present uk social security system will survive in its present form with accelerting(sic)costs etc etc)
Speaking about social security.....
I thought I would run a check to see if any of the Governing body had applied for it. What I found is quite interesting. Notice that Lloyd Barry did not apply for his until 1975.
NATHAN KNORR Request Information
SSN 131-38-8638 Residence: 11201 Brooklyn, Kings, NY
Born 23 Apr 1905 Last Benefit:
Died Jun 1977 Issued: NY (1963 And 1964
WILLIAM L BARRY Request Information
SSN 059-56-5008 Residence: 11201 Brooklyn, Kings, NY
Born 20 Dec 1916 Last Benefit:
Died 2 Jul 1999 Issued: NY (1975)
FREDERICK W FRANZ Request Information
SSN 080-42-6420 Residence: 11201 Brooklyn, Kings, NY
Born 12 Sep 1893 Last Benefit:
Died 22 Dec 1992 Issued: NY (1966)
KARL F KLEIN Request Information
SSN 065-38-0289 Residence: 11201 Brooklyn, Kings, NY
Born 25 Oct 1905 Last Benefit:
Died 3 Jan 2001 Issued: NY (1963)
The link for the social security site is listed below
… http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/vital/ssdi/main.htm
this was sent to me via email, just wanted to share it.
i've learned that no matter what happens,or how bad it seems today, life does go on, and it will be better tomorrow.. i've learned that you can tell a lot about a person by the way he/she handles these three things: a rainy day, lost luggage, and tangled christmas tree lights.. i've learned that regardless of your relationship with your parents, you'll miss them when they're gone from your life.. i've learned that making a "living" is not the same thing as making a "life.".
i've learned that life sometimes gives you a second chance.. i've learned that you shouldn't go through life with a catcher's mitt on both hands.
Prisca,
Thank you very much for those things to think about.
i drew this image some years back.
maybe you have some ideas what this guy is trying to say?.
"it takes two to speak the truth -- one to speak, and another to.
Okidok,
I went back and read one of your first post to this forum.
I cannot beleive that you did not get even one response to it.
I am so glad that you did not stop posting because of that.
. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=7853&site=3
Thanks for your story and thanks for being here.
I look forward to more of your drawings.
i noticed in a couple of threads people discussing the impact this board would have on jw's with doubts coming here and reading the messages.
it got me to wondering where most people that post here were at...what stage in their jw/ex jw process...when they started reading and/or posting here.
also curious, when you did come here what was your main focus?
The KM that BluesBrother spoke about was one of the things that really got me to thinking. What is it they don't want us to know?
Then a talk at the DC at the Pontiac Silverdome in the summer of 2000 really made me sit up and take notice.
The brother who gave the talk said "if you are happy with your life as it is stay away from the internet" (or words to that effect.)
I found out about Raymond Franz's books and I have to say that I am really surprised at what I found.
I never suspected that this was not the "truth" until I got on the internet.