JH,
IW, no newbie can talk to me this way...
Sorry about that.
Posts by IW
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Satanus,
Yah but he was once fast moving greased lighting slug, ya gotta admit.
So does every dog. But that don't mean I like dogs.
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OK, I won't be mean.
I was surprised to find out that men aren't all that dense. Just dumb.
Illustration: Male slug sees female slug. Male slug sees hammer about to come down on female slug. Male slug thinks: "Better get her while I can! And what a bang that will be!" Male slug bangs and gets banged. All is right with the world.
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Are there any jerks here with an IQ over 50?
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Who are these people? Amnesian? bjc2read?
by gringojj inok we have recently had some people starting threads about the bethel couple and watchtowerfarm.org.
of course if this is a fake, then we have to wonder what is the motive behind it.
i may be looking into this too much but i looked at the 2 people who started posts on this subject.
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Yep, I remember.
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How many have survived COC ?
by vitty ini am desperate to get the book coc into the hands of my daughter and her husband, just trying to find a way.. it got me thinking i wonder how many active jws could read that book and still stay in the org ?.
it had such an impact on my life and others i know.
i had never even heard of such a book.
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I survived COC.
I read it but did not leave. I ended up leaving because the GB maligned God.
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Alan F's flaming arguments and insults
by Rex inhi alan, .
have you ever looked at the carved up mountains, hills and valleys?????
have examined the remarkable similarity to the mount st. helen's canyon that was carved our very quickly?
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Rex,
AlanF just feels strongly about what he preaches. He's not really the meany he pretends to be.
Well....maybe.
IW
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Dichotomy of a Schizophrenic God
by Amazing1914 inread at your own risk
dichotomy of a schizophrenic god
the following post was the basis of my arguments in a debate with jim penton in october 2004 at the northwest conference in wenatche, wa.
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Amazing,
In your thread, "The Age of Man and Creation" on Channel C you wrote in part:
Think about the significance of Genesis again: God breathes life into Adam and he became a living soul or spirit in the image and likeness of God. God is not like humans. He lives in the spirit realm. But human spirits are in the image and likeness of God. Salvation is not of the flesh, but of the spirit. We still grow old and die. We still have weaknesses of the flesh. We still sin in the flesh. But, we are made alive in the spirit, first with the token of our being children of God. We are given a new birth, or born again in the spirit. But, our final destination is clearly defined by Paul as being with God in the spirit alone.
Excellent comment. I enjoyed your whole post on that subject by the way.
Would you consider reposting it here? I think many would find it interesting. Just a thought.
IW
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Channel C Decides to Stay Open !
by Amazing1914 inccadmin posted a new thread today stating that the cc site will stay open.
it appears that everyone was able to work out some differences and put christian friendship ahead of partisan views and attitudes.
this is nice to see, and speaks well of everyone involved.
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Ros,
Why don't you do something. You have indicated that I should do it differently. What do you do? Is is fair to criticize others for what they do if you're not doing something yourself? What good does it do to criticize here? How about starting a board that serves the exiting Witnesses the way you perceive the need?
Ironically, Ros, I am doing something, I am doing the very thing that Penton and others have done. I am criticizing a religious segment without providing a way out to better pastures.
How about if we turn your post around and put Penton's name in place of me and the Watchtower in place of you:
"Why don't you, Penton, do something. You have indicated that the Watchtower should do it differently. What do you do? Is is fair to criticize others for what they do if you're not doing something yourself? What good does it do to criticize here? How about starting a board that serves the exiting Witnesses the way you perceive the need?"
You see Ros, I do perform a valued function. One which follows in the great tradition of those Christian exJWs who "see" the Watchtower for what it is but feel no need to lead others to greener pastures. Call me an apple which has not fallen far from the tree or an apprentice to the great exJW Christian apologists.
I fell in the mud, Ros. I did not stay a hallowed Christian and with my children go to a local church after the Witnesses. No, I fell Ros, and so did my children. I know exactly what that feels like and I know how very hard it is to come back from that. In a way, I don't know if one can ever fully recover. That's why I asked Jim Whitney to post his history with regard to his own feelings toward the Bible and Christ post Watchtower. I believe it could help some here struggling to return to some beliefs or those lurking and hurting.
Good day to you, Ros.
IW
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Channel C Decides to Stay Open !
by Amazing1914 inccadmin posted a new thread today stating that the cc site will stay open.
it appears that everyone was able to work out some differences and put christian friendship ahead of partisan views and attitudes.
this is nice to see, and speaks well of everyone involved.
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Ros,
"Christianity should not depend on Penton or Jonsson or Franz or Channel C."
Yes, Ros, I am very well aware of that. Very well aware.
I have no other comment to make on your post above. It serves no purpose to further discuss what neither of us can or will agree on.
I hope all is well with you and yours,
IW