Simon's wife, AlanF's wife, Lee Elder's wife and Bill Bowen's wife.
Not easy sharing your husband with a cause.
there was a post in the past that listed ray franz as the "king of the apostates" to flip the script who would you nominate as the reigning "queen of the apostates"?
my nominee would go to joan cetnar.
but to be honest joan is such a nice person that i had the pleasure of meeting at a ex-jws convention.
Simon's wife, AlanF's wife, Lee Elder's wife and Bill Bowen's wife.
Not easy sharing your husband with a cause.
i notice that they don't preach much door to door anymore.
i'm not the only one who notices this around here.. i was just wondering if they reached a point where they can't bring anyone to the org.
anymore, so all that counts for them is to keep going to their meetings and wait for armageddon.
I think many of the publishers are definitely in a survival mode! Practically holding their breath, hoping against hope the Watchtower will get it right soon cause their young are spiritually dying.
IW
do you think that there will come a time when the wts will be a thing of the past and people will look into their history books and say "oh yeah those jw's were around for over 120 years and now they are no longer around today in the year 20___?
" my friend thinks that jw's will not collapse and will probably get "stronger" with time.
i hope not because i am just sick of the whole wts and jw's religion.
I think the Watchtower will either keep getting newer and newer light that will calm the waters of discontent....or it will split....but it will not die.
IW
in the mid 1990s the wtbts backed-off just a little bit on its stance about higher education publically while it was still discouraged unofficially.
now, all of a sudden they are publically clamping back down.
and coincidentally they are clamping back down just as ben schroeder was entering his final year or years at columbia law school.
I think the Watchtower's turn around on higher education is just another in their long list of ridiculous turn arounds which are, of course, due to their extreme cluelessness and lack of simple common sense! They don't know what they're doing or how to do it so they end up giving everything a try!
They're like a man on a sinking boat too busy plugging up the holes to notice that his rudder is broken and the waves are driving him towards the rocks. Oh well...the Governing Body deserves what they get.
IW
luke records the following:
and as they ministered to the lord, and fasted, the holy spirit said, "separate me barnabus and saul for the work whereunto i have called them.
" - kjv / av
Jim,
Acts 13:2 in the NASB, "While they were ministering to the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, 'Set apart for Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them."
Taken alone this verse shows that the HS uses personal pronouns and has the authority to not only send out ministers but to call them for a particular work it itself identifies.
IW
i've always wanted to know that.
my mum was telling me about this conversation she had with a jw that taught her the "truth," and that one of those speakers on the bible tapes was disfellowshipped and thought it might be raymond franz?
is that true?
Hi Inquirer,
The Gospel of John was the first Gospel the Society recorded in 1979, I believe the date is correct but not totally sure. Raymond Franz recorded that original tape but the Society re-recorded it after he left. I have his tape, he did a very good job. The brother who did the recording after him also did a good job. I do enjoy the British accents!
IW
the name of the trust fund is save the children.
the cheques should be made out to: save the children and mailed to:.
save the children.
Poztate,
I have nothing to add. I disagreed with the decisions made, Simon knows this. He also knows, I hope, that I respect his efforts to help our friends in and out of the Org.
I have no quarrel with you or anyone here. I just want the freedom to express my thoughts, that's all.
Peace and happiness to you,
IW
the name of the trust fund is save the children.
the cheques should be made out to: save the children and mailed to:.
save the children.
Skeeter,
P.S. IW, you are a just a stooge by the WTS.
So nice and easy it would be to think so. So neat. But, friend, I am disassociated. My public disassociation was read in the KH.
You don't really believe that all exJWs speak in unison and agree on every point do you? There is good reason that Raymond Franz does not post here and that Carl Olaf Jonsson and Jim Penton do not post here. There is much disagreement among the exJW community. If you are looking for "unity" of thought and action then I suggest you return to the JWs!
IW
the name of the trust fund is save the children.
the cheques should be made out to: save the children and mailed to:.
save the children.
Poztate,
Not my style.
Not mine either.
Peace to you.
IW
the name of the trust fund is save the children.
the cheques should be made out to: save the children and mailed to:.
save the children.
Hubert,
I have a daughter that is doing the "walked the walk" with the j.w.'s,
Sorry, Hubert, I didn't know this. You are entitled to your opinon Bro. and I respect it.
IW