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  Barbara Anderson- Your new book on Russell

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  barbara,.

  i read this recently on the biblestudents.net forum:i know barbara, we use to talk on the phone, when she learned i was writing a history of pastor russell and the ibsa.

  in the countless hours we spent on the phone.

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  Lots of great stuff on this thread! Thanks Stev! I think its important to get the truth of the matter out if that's possible. Most JWs might not care and many Bible Students may not believe it but who cares!!!! We know and that's what counts!

  The truth can make you free as we all have quite literally found out and if in later years Russell covered over the fact that his wife co-authored the Volumes that is another "truth" to add to his shame of face.

  Barbara kindly answered my pm and she'll be giving her take on this either later today or tomorrow.

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  Evolution and Self-Sacrifice

  by IW in

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  does the theory of evolution supply the genetic answer to the self-sacrificing nature of many animal parents as well as that of many men and women in general?

  when a man or woman risks their life to help someone in danger is their response simply a response to the natural processes at work due to evolution's effect on their dna?

  if so, can this self-sacrificing gene be isolated?

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  Very interesting info here, I've really enjoyed the discussion. There is one question I'd like to ask, isn't science working against evolution when we vaccinate ourselves from diseases instead of letting the natual process of selection take place? Wouldn't evolution, if left alone, produce a race of mankind that was better able to resist these diseases by allowing those who are naturally resistant (natural survivors of childhood diseases) to continue to produce children thereby passing down their resistance? (Not to mention the many cancers that run in families and the other genetic conditions that exist.)

  Isn't medicine working against the very process most scientists believe created the biological world we live in? I'm not for getting rid of medicine! just trying to understand this seeming inconsistency in the scientific world. Wouldn't allowing nature take its course be the best thing if man truly believes that natural processes have created such a remarkable living little planet as the one we all call home?

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  A Kind and Loving God

  by Dr Jekyll in

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  a number of people have asked where i disappeared to and why i stopped posting.

  so that i dont have to keep typing the reason out im putting it here.

  it might just make some of you think about what a loving god you serve.

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  Sweet, beautiful baby. My heart breaks.
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  Infallibility of Scripture

  by drew sagan in

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  one of this biggest teachings present in mostly all christian denominations is the idea that the bible is infallibile.

  my question is, where does the bible say this?

  i know of many scriptures that point to the idea that what was written was directed by god, but where does the idea that what written is totally without error originate?

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  Great topic, Drew.

  With that said, where does the Bible teach that each and every verse is indeed a divine revelation. Paul recorded things he refered to as his own opinion, so that means that Pauls opinion was recorded as a divine revelation from God?

  No where does the Bible teach that each and every verse is a divine revelation but I think it is a given that while each verse may not be directly from God it is at least allowed by him. Jesus himself said divorce was allowed in the Law because Moses knew the hardheartedness of man and allowed divorce. God did not institute that from the beginning but he allowed Moses do what was needed. God allowed Moses to write what was good for his day but only the Ten Commandments were written in stone, in effect to be kept always. (It's interesting that in the Most Holy of the Temple the Ten Commandments were kept inside the Ark but the Law outside of it. Perhaps indicating it's temporary nature.) Imo, Jesus did the same with Paul he allowed Paul to set the standards for the congregations of his day but not necessarily "law" that would stand forever. The Jews found it easier to lean on law rather than on God just as many Christians today want to lean on the written word rather than on God. It gives them comfort I suppose, this crutch of infallibility.

  I say let them have their crutch as long as they don't try to beat me or my children with it. If they do then all bets are off and I will cause their crutch to crumble because the Bible is not meant to be taken as something infallible but rather something beautiful! Not as a club to beat others with but as a path through the woods at the end of which is God.

  Thanks for this topic, very interesting posts.

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  Barbara Anderson- Your new book on Russell

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  barbara,.

  i read this recently on the biblestudents.net forum:i know barbara, we use to talk on the phone, when she learned i was writing a history of pastor russell and the ibsa.

  in the countless hours we spent on the phone.

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  Blondie,

  You can pm Barbara here on JWD under AndersonInfo; she has been frequently visiting to check comments on her threads.

  Just did, thanks!

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  Barbara Anderson- Your new book on Russell

  by IW in

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  barbara,.

  i read this recently on the biblestudents.net forum:i know barbara, we use to talk on the phone, when she learned i was writing a history of pastor russell and the ibsa.

  in the countless hours we spent on the phone.

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  Does anyone have Jim Penton's email address? Also, Barbara must have this info as well. Does anyone have her email address?

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  Barbara Anderson- Your new book on Russell

  by IW in

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  barbara,.

  i read this recently on the biblestudents.net forum:i know barbara, we use to talk on the phone, when she learned i was writing a history of pastor russell and the ibsa.

  in the countless hours we spent on the phone.

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  Lady Lee, I also tried finding it online but failed. Do you think Jim Penton would post the transcript here? More JWs lurk here than would read his book and I think it would be a great incentive for them to look further into their religious roots.

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  Barbara Anderson- Your new book on Russell

  by IW in

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  2. friends

  barbara,.

  i read this recently on the biblestudents.net forum:i know barbara, we use to talk on the phone, when she learned i was writing a history of pastor russell and the ibsa.

  in the countless hours we spent on the phone.

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  Hi Blondie,

  Thanks for the link to the court transcipts. They do not mention Maria's authorship of the volumes though, apparently Jim Penton's source is different. Do you know where he got his info?

  Thanks,

  IW
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  Barbara Anderson- Your new book on Russell

  by IW in

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  2. friends

  barbara,.

  i read this recently on the biblestudents.net forum:i know barbara, we use to talk on the phone, when she learned i was writing a history of pastor russell and the ibsa.

  in the countless hours we spent on the phone.

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  Lady Lee,

  I think we might have to wait for the books

  Does Jim Penton quote the transcripts in his book? Perhaps someone could post that.

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  Barbara Anderson- Your new book on Russell

  by IW in

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  barbara,.

  i read this recently on the biblestudents.net forum:i know barbara, we use to talk on the phone, when she learned i was writing a history of pastor russell and the ibsa.

  in the countless hours we spent on the phone.

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  Athanasius,

  Interestingly after Russell and his wife separated in 1897, he only published one more book, The New Creation, volume 6 of the Studies in the Scriptures.

  Yes, it is. Thanks!

  IW