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What can you do?
by joelbear ini can lick peanut butter out of the cleft in my chin with my tongue.
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Catholic infant baptism and JW child baptism. There is no difference!
At the last convention I attended, a six year old girl was interviewed on stage. She had been baptized the day before, with her 8 year old sister. The difference between JW child baptism and Catholic infant baptism is that the JW child is now trapped in a cult. The six year old child has no way of knowing that if she changes her mind or disagrees with the teachings that she doesn't yet understand, she will be shunned by every family member and every friend she has every had. The Catholic infant can grow up and decide that he doesn't agree with Catholic teachings, and his priest will pray for him, and welcome him in church whenever he wants to attend. When I think about it, it makes me ill.. -
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Too afraid to be free?
by wanderlustguy inbeing raised in a cult and having everything planned for you, all questions you have either answered or forbidden, and your future planned out for you almost to the hour, is it that unreasonable to say you could be afraid to be free?
case in point - me.
as soon as i was away from the home i grew up in, it wasnt 6 months before i was engaged.
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Hi WLG, I absolutely believe that one can be afraid to be free.
When you are in a mind-controlling cult, your mind eventually turns itself off. You swollow what you are fed, end of story. When someone is aware enough to wake up and realize the imbicility of it all and actually leave, you leave with very poorly developed decision-making skills.
Trying to decide what is right, is scary. Taking responsibility for your actions, and the outcome of your actions or lack thereof, is scary. You have no one to validate you when you do what you think is right. You have no one to stop you when you do something you think is wrong. The rules are taken away, and what you are left with is your conscience. From what I've seen over the years, most JWs don't have much of a conscience. Their conscience is trained to warn them when they disobey a WT rule. No more WT rules = I have no idea what to do anymore.....
I have seen this all the time with JW kids who grow up and decide that they don't want to be JWs. How many of them end up being upstanding citizens???? Not many, in my experience. They get pregnant, into drinking or drugs and wreck their cars and their lives. I have been a JW for 34 years, and can honestly count on one hand the JW kids who didn't want to be JWs, and transitioned immediately into 'normal' worldly adults.
I am leaving the JWs, and my kids will not be JWs if I can help it, and I am trying to teach them some moral responsibility. We don't cheat and lie because it's WRONG, not because we'll get caught. We treat others with the respect due all of God's creatures because it's RIGHT, not because we're at the meeting and someone is watching. It's unbelievable to me that this is a new concept for many adults that I know. JW adults, that is.
My advice to you (if you want to hear it) is to find out what you LIKE to do... what you enjoy... what brings you peace, happiness deep within yourself. Then DO it.. Before you know it, you'll love yourself and the girls will be banging down your door....
I love this quote from St. Iraneous: " The glory of God is the human person fully alive; the life of human beings is the vision of God." Isn't that beautiful??!!
GGG
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Coming Out Of The Closet!!!!!!!!!!!!
by ButtLight inno, not me, my babies!
they are 15 days old, and trying to work their way out of the bathroom closet!
3 of them, two twins and one black one.
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They are so cute!! I have 2 cats, one kitten, and a dog who enjoys herding the cats whenever she can get away with it... The one cat doesn't believe in kitty litter, she pees on the toilet. Haven't figured out how to teach her to flush, though.. -
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Fading.... When your mate won't
by GoingGoingGone ini am in the process of fading.
my husband's a well-respected elder.
i have 2 teenage kids.
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Hi all, I am in the process of fading. My husband's a well-respected elder. I have 2 teenage kids. I have no problem with anyone in the congregation, in fact I have many very good friends, but I just can't accept the teachings anymore, and I can't be the hypocritical 'happy JW.' I stopped attending meetings about 9 months ago, I think.
The problem is my husband. He was raised a JW, as was I, and thus he knows nothing else. I have been researching everything possible, trying to determine what I DO believe about God and the bible, but he won't let me share any of that with him, as per WT regulations. I have talked to my kids about what I've learned, even though he has forbidden me to do so, and they have both told me privately that they don't believe the JW teachings, and will never be baptized as JWs. That is a huge relief to me, knowing that I have saved my kids from this cult, but my husband has told me that he is never leaving.
Has anyone here successfully faded with a mate who has stayed a JW in good standing? How has that affected your relationship? It's a real problem for me, and any good advice or experiences would be appreciated!!
Thanks!
GGG
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Experience being 'out of the loop' of helpful information in the cong.
by out of the box ina post in this thread by dorayakii in this thread: .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/95493/1.ashx made me think about this thread.to me, even from the outside, the society has always seemed legalistic and cold, eager to find faults, which is precisely the opposite to how jesus formed christianity.
however, many people don't see that perspective, because they are not in a position of imtimacy with the leaders of the organisation.
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This has never happened to me or my kids (as far as I know... but I think I could tell...). What I find most appalling about this type of thing is not necessarilly that it happens, but that we get lulled into believing that we are so 'safe' in the org., and the wicked world is so dangerous and evil, and so it's easy to believe that whenever we're with the JWs, everything will be just fine. You don't have your antenne up in the same way, because you're supposed to be with "God's people". I hope you and your family are doing well!!
GGG
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Virgo..... Year of the rabbit..... fits pretty well, too! -
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hello all - new here
by GoingGoingGone inhello everyone, this is my first post.... i'm in the process of fading after being a jw my entire life (almost).
i don't go to meetings anymore..... hubby's an elder, and boy, is he mad.
he still makes the kids go with him to meetings, service, etc... they hate it and i feel sorry for them, but there's not much i can do about it.. i've been feeling lonely today, i do miss my friends sometimes, and i have really good friends, but since i don't go to meetings i never see them much anymore.
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Hi everyone! Wow - just signed on and saw all the 'hello's... you guys are great! To answer some questions:
Merry: My decision to fade comes after doubting JW teachings for about 10 years at least. I don't believe in the 144,000 only going to heaven, in God destroying everyone who's not a JW at Armageddon when there are so many truly wonderful people in the world, in the treatment of df'd people who simply don't believe in JW teachings anymore, and a ton of other stuff. I have no problem with the people... most of them are good people, misguided though, and of course there are the nasty ones, too, but you'll find nasty people all over this imperfect world...
Anewme: I'd love to talk 'elder' sometime - or anything else, for that matter!
Bryan: Right now I'm concerned with keeping the peace. My kids are old enough to see the falsehoods at the meetings, now that I have pointed them out. Thank goodness...
Rebel8: Been surfing the web since about Jan.... I'm over the fear of lightning striking ... And 'apostate' is an interesting word, huh?
Cellist: I love the cello! Saw YoYo Ma when he had a concert here in town...
Dimples: I'd love to share my story some day. It's actually quite the unique tragic drama.... so much so that if I related it here, anyone who knows me and is 'lurking' would recognize me immediately... so it'll have to wait... sorry....
Blueblades: I hope he comes around.... right now it's not looking good, though..
And everyone else: THANKS so much for your kind words!! You make me feel so welcome here! You guys seem like a really loving, caring crowd!
Love to you all,
GGG
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hello all - new here
by GoingGoingGone inhello everyone, this is my first post.... i'm in the process of fading after being a jw my entire life (almost).
i don't go to meetings anymore..... hubby's an elder, and boy, is he mad.
he still makes the kids go with him to meetings, service, etc... they hate it and i feel sorry for them, but there's not much i can do about it.. i've been feeling lonely today, i do miss my friends sometimes, and i have really good friends, but since i don't go to meetings i never see them much anymore.
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GoingGoingGone
Hi again! Yes, I've read Crisis of Conscience.. it was great. I've also combed the Internett and devoured all kinds of info. Of course, the first time I accessed 'apostate' sites, I was pretty much expecting to be struck by lightning.... lol.... When my hubby's gone, I talk to the kids. I am pretty sure they will never be JWs. However, at this point they are completely fed up with all religion, and don't think there is any truth to be found at all, and that makes me kind of sad. -
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hello all - new here
by GoingGoingGone inhello everyone, this is my first post.... i'm in the process of fading after being a jw my entire life (almost).
i don't go to meetings anymore..... hubby's an elder, and boy, is he mad.
he still makes the kids go with him to meetings, service, etc... they hate it and i feel sorry for them, but there's not much i can do about it.. i've been feeling lonely today, i do miss my friends sometimes, and i have really good friends, but since i don't go to meetings i never see them much anymore.
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Hello everyone, this is my first post.... I'm in the process of fading after being a JW my entire life (almost). I don't go to meetings anymore..... Hubby's an elder, and boy, is he mad. He still makes the kids go with him to meetings, service, etc... They hate it and I feel sorry for them, but there's not much I can do about it. I've been feeling lonely today, I do miss my friends sometimes, and I have really good friends, but since I don't go to meetings I never see them much anymore. Being raised a JW, I have no friends who are not... (because I was a really good, obedient JW...)
Anyway, just wanted to say hi for now...!