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  STEVE HASSAN coming to Cult Free Radio on November 19

  by Mad Sweeney in

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  you read that right.

  just finished talking to steve a half hour ago.. november 19 at 10pm est, steve hassan's interview will air on cult free radio on ustream.

  i will also have a co-host that evening to discuss bite mind control and steve's interview.. https://www.facebook.com/cultfreeradio.

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  GoingGoingGone

  Awesome!

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  How do you go on when married to a JW who doesn't want to be a JW

  by marriedtoajw in

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  i've posted on here a few times under the screen name of sahara but had to change it, long story... anyway i've posted some of my story being married to a jw for twenty years with four children, none of whom are jw's or are studying to be one.

  i've stated on my other posts that i've done lots of research on jw's and watchtower history, i don't think there is anything about the history and tactics of jws that i haven't personally come across or studied, though i could be wrong.

  people who are not intimately familiar with jw beliefs and practices seem to view them as strange simply because they don't celebrate holidays or salute the flag etc, but those of us who are more familiar with them know that there is far more than meets the eyes of casual observers.

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  GoingGoingGone

  I think what your wife is doing is a really good sign. She's trying to break out of the JWs, but she's mentally chained... breaking out of mental chains is really difficult. This must be so confusing for you (having never been a JW), but I can assure you it's both confusing and terrifying for her.

  I agree with the posters who say to read Hassan's books. Don't push her, but encourage anything she does that's anti-JW (b'days, holidays, etc). If she feels forced, she'll run right back to the only place she thinks is 'safe', the WTS.

  Good luck to you and your family. I really feel for you - I faded about 8 years ago and my husband stayed in. It was hell on earth to begin with, but now my kids are out and my husband is much more accepting of the whole situation. Hang in there!

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  Research Data Wanted: Married to a JW or child of one parent in and the other not

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am looking for information from several groups of people.. people who are no longer jws but have a spouse who is still in.

  never-been jwswas a jw (baptized or not) but left after marrying and spouse remained indfed, daed or faded and still have a spouse who is inchildren (now grown) who were raised with one parent a jw and the other never beenchildren (now grown) where one parent left the jws and one stayed in.if there are categories i have missed let me know.

  i need this to be pretty inclusive and focused on couples where one person is a jw and the other is not.. i will be asking questions re:.

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  GoingGoingGone

  I'm in category 1.

  Also: My mother became a fanatic JW when I was about 6. My father was very opposed. Several years later, he was baptized a JW. Several years after that, he was DF'd.

  I believe that it's important for the "outside world" to understand how hard it is for children raised in a cult to leave, even when it seems that that option is available. The mind control sits deep, and is compounded by the threat of losing one's entire support system and one's family. If the young person does have the courage to turn their back on the JW religion and live their own life, they often carry with them the belief that they are a bad person because of it, and that the cult they grew up in is true. Shaking the belief that God is against you is only done by disproving the cult's teachings, which action is forbidden by the cult, (and which requires work, so this is an easy step to skip!)

  Anyway, I've got a lot of thoughts on this subject but being in category 1, this is not a good time for me to be online, but I'd like to help if I can... :)

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  Should There be a Petition Asking the Watchtower Society to Retract its "Mentally Diseased" Statements?

  by DT in

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  of course, i would be very surprised if the watchtower society ever retracted or apologised for anything.

  still, it could gain a lot of publicity and put pressure on them to curb their hate speech.

  if they refuse to apologise, it could demonstrate that those statements were intentional and not just a slip of the printing press.

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  GoingGoingGone

  I think that any opportunity to bring their fanatical teachings to the attention of the rest of the world should be jumped on. Most people don't care about JWs because they think that they're harmless. Well, they're not. Use their own words against them.

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  {Sigh}, I could use a hug...

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

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  my first two exams were this week.

  things didn't go well.

  the classes are tough -- math and science.

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  GoingGoingGone

  You're doing engineering, right? At the Honors college, right?? You don't have to do everything perfectly, you know! Don't be too hard on yourself for not doing too well on your first exams... get tutoring, take fewer classes, take longer doing your homework, whatever it takes. You will do great!!

  It's much harder to accomplish things when you don't have your family behind you. But you have a whole community of people who care and who are not just behind you, but are cheering you on.

  (((((((HUG)))))))) from me, too!

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  How many of you haven't fared too well since your exit?

  by i_drank_the_wine in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know that i've had a hard time piecing things back together after losing my wife and family a couple years ago and haven't really gotten the ball rolling to say the least.

  just curious to hear if anyone else is in the same boat, or was in the same boat and how long it took them to get a "new life" figured out and going..

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  GoingGoingGone

  (Raises hand) ... Having a hard time

  Been out for about 7 years now (can't believe it's been that long!), and I got my kids out and to college and leading wonderful, non-JW lives. But my husband is still in, and that makes it so hard for me to move on. All my JW friends are gone. I work from home, and have health problems that prevent me from getting an outside job right now. So I have no friends. But I think that I'm mostly afraid that if I DO get on with my life, then my husband and I will have nothing in common anymore, and I'll lose my marriage, too.

  I also come from an abusive family, and am learning to deal with the fallout of that now. Therapy helps. But some days I wonder if I'll ever be able to trust a friendship ever again, or if I'll have enough energy to invest into any relationship whatsoever. Sigh.

  I'm glad to see that it's going better for some of you. It makes me happy for you, and gives me hope that maybe things will be looking up here one day, too.

  So to everyone who needs it.... ((((hug))))

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  what am i in for? i have 5 jw employees and now im dfd...

  by oompa in

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  2. friends

  only one is a guy...a mini serve .

  one is a reg pioneer.... all are actually pretty key to my biz....three have been there over 20 years (ya...i am a great boss!!!).

  how much pressure are they going to get to quit working for me???.

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  GoingGoingGone

  DesirousOfChange - I agree with what you wrote. But do you honestly think that JW employees will go against the elder body and continue to work for a DF'd person? They may be able to bend the rules while there are no other jobs to be had... but when the economy picks up again, they will be expected to find other employment. And where will that leave oompa?

  There are plenty of good, reliable, out-of-work people right now. They are there for the picking. Right now, oompa probably has some really good choices if he were to hire someone else. On the other hand, when the economy picks up, the JW employees take off, the best of the unemployeed quickly find jobs, and oompa is left in a bind.

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  what am i in for? i have 5 jw employees and now im dfd...

  by oompa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  only one is a guy...a mini serve .

  one is a reg pioneer.... all are actually pretty key to my biz....three have been there over 20 years (ya...i am a great boss!!!).

  how much pressure are they going to get to quit working for me???.

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  GoingGoingGone

  I also agree with Nathan.

  Continue to be friendly but don't hide the fact that you are looking for new employees. Your JW employees' loyalties lay with the WT first, you last. They may be sticking around for now because the economy is bad and it's hard to find a new job. But don't misread that as good intentions on their part. And don't wait until the ball is in their court to find out if they are going to screw you over.

  Hiring new employees is a pain in the butt, but getting rid of our JW employees was the best thing we ever did for our business.

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  Assisted suicide

  by watersprout in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we are watching a program about author terry pratchett and his coming to terms with alzheimer's and assisted suicide.... i am a believer in that we as human beings, who have free will, have a right to decide when and how we die... why can animals be put out of their misery when dying a painful death??

  why can't we as humans make that decision??.

  in belgium assisted suicide is legal, but if you go out there and your loved one goes with you, when your loved one comes back they stand a chance of being prosecuted.... i said to carrot ''humans should be allowed that right to decide when to die''.... carrot replied with ''it's illegal because you will have people just doing it so they are not a burden on their family''.... it seems to be a very touchy subject with people, especially on this program.. i would be very interested in some thoughts on the subject.... peace.

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  GoingGoingGone

  Assisted suicide is legal in Oregon, Washington, and Montana.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_suicide

  I know someone who attended a dear friend's assisted suicide. It was a very, very difficult decision for the patient - who desperately wanted an assisted suicide - to go ahead with it, because her family was against it. In the end, her family respected her wishes.

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  Buried my father today

  by littlerockguy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i mostly post fluff and music posts on this thread more often now but just thought i would let some people here who still know me about what has been goin on with me recently.

  my dad about a 7 month battle with lung cancer which metastasized to the bones and he died early wed morning.

  my dad was a fascinating man, complex, sometimes open and sometimes a very aloof and detached person.

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  GoingGoingGone

  (((((LRG)))))

  I'm so sorry to hear that you lost your father. What an interesting life he had! I'm glad that you got to see the best side of him before he passed away.

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