Good for you, undecided!!
I bet it felt really good to say what you felt for a change! Tiptoe-ing around the issues is exhausting and infuriating at times. You never know, maybe you started the wheels turning in his head!
GGG
i was in the grocery store and met a cousin i haven't seen in years.
the first thing he asked me was, do you go to the meeting now?
he mentioned how armageddon was so close.
Good for you, undecided!!
I bet it felt really good to say what you felt for a change! Tiptoe-ing around the issues is exhausting and infuriating at times. You never know, maybe you started the wheels turning in his head!
GGG
thanks to danny haszard you can listen to the 75 minutes of interview with barbara anderson and linda john by the famous mark furhman from his mark furhman radio show (in four parts) from this link:.
http://www.dannyhaszard.com/cultvideos.htm#barb.
just click on one of the four parts to listen to it.
I listened to them all today. They're great. Thanks to all you guys who put together this stuff, and post it for all of us to see or hear.
GGG
over the years the wts has vacillated on its stance regarding the distinction between rape and mutual consent to fornication.. in years past, the wts has stated that "the primary distinction between rape and consent was whether a woman screamed for help.
" (awake!, 4/22/73, p. 17).. the wts's latest published stance, however, states that while the act of screaming establishes innocence of the victim, screaming in itself is not the sole criteria for determining the victim's innocence before god.
if one is incapable of screaming, it does not matter, since jehovah can read a person's motives:.
When I was very young, someone I knew was DF'd because she was raped and became pregnant. She went to a man's house thinking there was going to be a party, but was decieved. Because she 'put herself into that situation', she was disfellowshipped.
When I was young, I was at the summer convention and overheard a conversation between two women. They were talking about a young woman they knew who had been raped and had become pregnant. Instead of having any compassion for the ordeal this woman had been through, they proceeded to go on and on about how this woman was out at 2 am, and with such behavior, what could she expect?
They also discussed whether or not she had screamed, how much and how loud, etc. I was not very old, but I was shocked at the callous attitude of these women. Didn't realize then, but the attitude comes from the top.
GGG
if you have followed our story you know we were moving out of state to start over and get away from tons of extended jw family.. we are officially moved.
hundreds of miles away from our old life.
as i write this, i feel numb, cold, and very raw.
I'm so glad the move went well!! I've been thinking about you guys, wondering if you were settled in yet. Wow - ithinkisee's brother! How cool is that! I'm so happy for you all!!
We'll be up there in a couple weeks, actually, if I can think of a way to meet up I'll letcha know... !
GGG
my parents just came round with their new blood cards, asking for help to fill them in..
friend of satan!
in my mothers words, the last time we discussed the wtbts.. anyway, i said i would help them if they crossed out and signatured the part that gave access to their medical notes to the hlc.
I had told him few weeks ago about the new change in the cards and today he told me that there was not any new change
I don't think there is a change in the cards that are handed out in the USA. Has anyone seen or heard otherwise? The new cards are in the UK, and the change is taking place there. For now, anyway....
GGG
TopHat -
Too much liquid in your bread dough!
GGG
i only have one that comes to mind.
a sister was visiting our hall from another congregation and was sitting in the back of the hall.
she raised her hand to answer a question, but only had one finger in the air.
Brother Longwinded was saying the closing prayer, going on..... and on..... and on...... and on........ My 2 year old son had had more than enough meeting already, and finally he lets out this huge sigh in the middle of the prayer and yells, "AMEN!"
Muffled laughter erupted throughout the hall....
GGG
i have been trying to become a member of this site for weeks!
i started "lurking" soon after andersoninfo's big news.
i couldn't believe my timing!
Welcome!
Nice to have you here! Look forward to hearing more from you.
GGG
i thought that someone(s) were working on getting that info back up on the internet.
if it is up and running, where is it at?
.
I hope somebody somewhere has got it all archived in downloadable format, I'd love to have it all on a CD.
Me too!!!
GGG
greetings.. i have started a project that i hope will stay online for times indefinate, even to times indefinate.
you can find it at www.reexamine.org .. i started working on it in october and it is still a work in progress, however because of the shut down of the website located at http://quotes.watchtower.ca i felt that i should release the site in "as-is" condition, instead of waiting until it was completely finished.. currently, there isn't a lot of content in the 'wiki' section of the website.
hopefully in the next few days and weeks that will change, however there are still programming issues that i have to work out before that can happen.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Quotes portion is downloadable by the end of the day.
Oh I hope so!! I really want to download a copy of the full site, scans, pictures, and all. The more people who can do this, the better. Get that information out there!
GGG (of the Lots of Free Gegabyte Class)