Thank you for those pictures Lady Liberty, if those don't make some JW's think, then they really are blind.
IC
Thank you for those pictures Lady Liberty, if those don't make some JW's think, then they really are blind.
IC
at this point in your life, do you believe in god or any parts of the bible as being god's word???.
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No - to the Bible
No - to the Bible God
Yes - to a Creator
IC
<!-- .style1 {font-family: arial, sans-serif} .style2 {color: #ff0000} .style3 {color: #000000} .style4 {font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; } --> the great taboo discussionsuicides among former jehovah's witnesses to write about this discussion neither appeals to me nor does it make me feel comfortable to discuss it.. however, it is necessary to consider in light of all the trauma, negative experiences, and personal traged-.
ies that have happened to individuals on this board.
(what inspired me to write this subject was a bone chilling account .
I knew a very nice bethelite in his late 20's at the time, back in the early 80's who was going through severe depression (I wonder why? ), he was asked to leave bethel, ended up in a mental institution and jumped out a window to his death, very sad. I also tried this a few times, I thought this was the only way out, to escape abuse by my MS stepfather, I figured I would close my eyes and wake up in the "New System" and everything would be wonderful, thankfully the method I used did not work and I just slept it off, at another time there was a guy I was dating he was an MS I was 15 he was 20 (stupid I know, but my stepfather wanted to marry me off), it ended up being emotionaly devastating to me and I no longer wanted to live, the "New System" looked very attractive once again, I told my mom I no longer wanted to go back to meetings, since it was devastating for me to see him and his new girlfreind showing off in front of me. My mom convinced me to give the "Truth" another try and rely on Jehovah, I did that and stayed in that CRAP for all these years. After that experience I decided to empower myself, and read numerous self help books, which helped me out of the depression and helped me regain my self confidence. And here I am, I don't dwell on the bad things that happened to me, cause LIVING WELL IS THE BEST REVENGE!!!!! And today, I can honestly say that those that wronged me have paid dearly, many times over, and I had nothing to do with it. I forgave them and hold no grudges, my life is too precious to waste a single moment thinking about those people.
All I have to say about all those poor people that have lost their lives because of this CULT is that I hope their death was not in vain, I hope this wakes up some of those JW lurkers enough to see, that it's not an innocent religion, it is a DAMAGING CULT, if they in any way help anyone get into this religion they are risking being guilty of causing someones death, including their own children. Some JW's have said "oh, even if I find out it's not the truth, it's still the best way to live", well THINK AGAIN!
for all the unnecessary lifes lost to this CULT
IC
name few words or expressions a normal person can say, but not a jw.. when someone sneezes, you can't say bless ya !.
if you want to surprise a jw, you can't say boo !!!
http://www.prankcallsunlimited.com/pcu/booecho.mp3.
What a boring Ass meeting, I'm going home!
In service meeting "Hey why does the society beg for money every November? I thought only Babylon did that"
I don't care what you say brother Elder, I am still wearing thongs under my tight skirt!
Saved by Grace.
IC
hey guys, do any of you know whatever happened to these xjw's?
i'm curious to know, gene birdsong was a co in tx and was df'd for apostasy he was a very nice man, very caring wouldn't it be great if he was posting here?
episcopo was a do, he was also a very nice man, was one of the few that gave exhilerating talks, that did not put you to sleep, he was df'd a year ago, that was totally unexpected, i wonder what happened, these guys probably found out the truth about "the truth"!
You are absolutely right Minimus, I'm hoping those shockwaves will drag hundreds of people out of this Crappy religion or at least make them start thinking.
IC
hey guys, do any of you know whatever happened to these xjw's?
i'm curious to know, gene birdsong was a co in tx and was df'd for apostasy he was a very nice man, very caring wouldn't it be great if he was posting here?
episcopo was a do, he was also a very nice man, was one of the few that gave exhilerating talks, that did not put you to sleep, he was df'd a year ago, that was totally unexpected, i wonder what happened, these guys probably found out the truth about "the truth"!
Hey guys, do any of you know whatever happened to these XJW's? I'm curious to know, Gene Birdsong was a CO in TX and was DF'd for apostasy he was a very nice man, very caring wouldn't it be great if he was posting here? Episcopo was a DO, he was also a very nice man, was one of the few that gave exhilerating talks, that did not put you to sleep, he was DF'd a year ago, that was totally unexpected, I wonder what happened, these guys probably found out the truth about "The Truth"! If any of you know please share.
IC
that's right folks, the fds in convinced that we are so deep into the end of the system of things they feel it will happen at any moment.. it's funny that this should be taken serious since this sort of thing has been said many times in the past.
however, many of those at that meeting are so drawn in that they believe it as if they saw god himself speak it.. this came from someone who attended, perhaps someone else has direct quotes or other tidbits they can share with us.
oc .
One year from now, I will be asking my totally brainwashed regular pioneer mom, and other JW family members what happened with the WTS prediction that False Religion was going to end? Since nothing will have happened then.
IC
a few days ago, i met an old lady that has a jw as neighbour.
she knows that jw couple since years, although she isn't a jw.
so, i asked that old lady, "do you still see that jw couple once in a while", hoping for some kind of juicy news..... so, my question is, "how can a person love to be a jw" when so many others just "hate" being in that religion?.
To many it's just a social club where they can meet and greet new ones, gossip and criticize anyone who doesn't tow the line, also get informed about what brothers do for a living in case they need to make use of their services for the much expected brotherly discount, and if they are structure freaks they will fit right in, they have a schedule to follow and enough rules to keep them busy for quite a while....If they are snobby then they will love it, because they feel like they know the "Truth" whereas everyone else is so fooled in their stupid little religions...the females usually look forward to occasions like assemblies and the Memorial when you can get new outfits to show off this always adds excitement to their dull lives.
A sad life really.
IC
my husband, the black pearl, had a interesting conversation with his mother today.
she was trying to be all kiss butt nice, for today that is, to tell him about the new tract that is coming out in october.
apparently they don't have it yet.
A few days ago, I had a phone conversation with my fanatical regular pioneer mom and I mentioned the upcoming campaign, she was silent for a moment, then I said "you know, the campaign for the new tract about the end of false religion that's supposed to begin on october 16", she said "yes it starts October 16" "oh, you guys are going to the meetings?(with a smile on her face)" my reply "no, not really", I could tell the smile faded real quick, and she asked me how I knew this, I said "oh, I keep track of everything that goes on, I know that this is the third campaign this summer, and that it is pretty much the same as the one that came out in 73" she just said "oh yes, pretty similar" and I could hear in her voice that her brainwashed mind was trying to deal with this realization, but then she started changing the subject of course and we ended the conversation.
She will be out there wasting her last years on this DAMN PUBLISHING COMPANY POSING AS A RELIGION, IT REALLY PISSES ME OFF!!!!!
Oh well, life goes on.
IC
i always had trouble with answering that question.
if there is a god why is there so much suffering?
so i looked up the offical explanation of the wts in the bible teach book chapter 11 paragraph 12 says: let us consider an illustration.
I have twirled this question around in my head so many times.....I've finally arrived at a conclusion that I am at peace with (this has the potential of driving you crazy if you let it). Now these are just my thoughts everyone is free to believe what they want....I believe that we are all spiritual beings that chose these physical bodies so we can experience all the facets of being a human, but ultimately when our physical bodies die we once again connect to the Creator whether it is called God, some Superior Conciousness, or whoever, and we can choose to come back in another body to experience another life. I believe that whatever goes on here on earth is only temporary and does not affect our final destination I think we all go to the same place and I don't believe there is a hell bad people go to , since I know the concept of hell is a human invention. If evil did not exist how would we know what goodness is?, if suffering did not exist how would we show compassion? I agree with Brigid that there has to be a balance, the ying and yang thing. If what happens here does not matter in the long run, then that would explain why the Creator does not intervene, if our ultimate existence is safe then it doesn't matter. In this reality we can choose to fight evil, and we can choose love over hate, the decision is ours to make. Those are just my thoughts, since no one really knows until we get there.... from all the stuff I have read, those are the conclusions I have arrived at, and I feel very happy and at peace.
IC