Hello Clueless, and Welcome to JWD! There is so much to learn once you find out that your old beliefs were based on lies. After much research I came to the conclusion that bible is not the word of god, instead it's an ancient book put together by different men to control the people. That however, does not mean I don't believe in a Creator, I just don't believe that the bible god is the Creator. The god of the bible had human attributes and emotions. You should check out the Deism website, Deists believe in Natures God, they don't believe in organized religion, the website has interesting information. Good luck on your quest! IC
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Came to this site to research.. J.W
by cluless ini came to this site initially to research about jehovahs witnesses.and oboy what i learnt.
goodbye to that believe system.. but was it really necessary that i also now no longer see the bible as the word of god ?..and am turning athiest...?.
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ICBehindtheCurtain
This is great V! I can't wait to share this with some JW's I know!
Thanks,
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Excellent Terry, Thanks! Blondie thank you also!
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If there is a God - I'm REALLY PI$$ED at him
by AWAKE&WATCHING ini've got one post for the next 14 hours so i figure i'll make it count.. when i was 21 i began to really question the state of the world.
you know- "is this life all there is, yadda yadda.
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I was once where you are now, wondering why it seemed that we had been abandoned by God, and looking at all the good that could be done if there was some sort of intervention. Well, I kept reading and searching for answers, and came to a few conclusions, they are my own, everyone is free to think as they want, I mean who really knows? I do believe in a Creator/Creatress who designed everything we see, I do not believe that the Bible is the word of God, I just think it's composed of myths, stories some invented some borrowed, some historical tidbits here and there.
I don't believe God wants to intervene I think we have to figure it out for ourselves, we have the resources, the abilities to make a difference here on earth and many people already have. It's up to us and that is a very scary thought for many people they would rather believe in pretty fairytales that solve all our questions but supply no real solutions. I have more to say, but have to go and cook right now, so that is my two cents so far.
I wish you peace
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The enemy of a GOOD LIFE now: Jehovah's Witnesses' idea of the PERFECT
by Terry inthe connection between thinking and acting; belief and behavior is a vital link; mostly because what we do constitutes our life moment to moment.. we are caught in a flowing rush we cannot escape as though tossed into a raging river.
i am talking about your life.
you cannot escape time and the inexorable movement of events around you.
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Terry, thank you very much for sharing that with us, you are so right!!!! I am by no means religious anymore, but I do admire Joel Osteen for the reasons you mentioned, he takes that book (the bible) and uses it to tell the people that God does want us to be prosperous and to be the best that we can be HERE AND NOW, not in some future paradise as with the JW dream...I don't agree with all the "bless the lord" stuff he says, but hey if it is necessary so he can help so many people to get ahead, get educated, use their talents and enjoy this life I see it as a good thing! Of course the ideal thing would be to free people from the religious binds altogether, but sometimes abandoning the God of the bible is just too scary for many people. Terry you are a true asset to us, I appreciate your hard work, Thanks!!
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I know you know that there is no "Jehovah" and no "Jesus his son" and no "Annointed" and no "True Religion" how can you harm so many people, sleep at night and still look at yourself in the mirror? you bastards deserve all the crap your going to eventually get!!!
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SURVEY: Who Believes In "God"?
by minimus inand by that i mean the supreme being or jehovah or jesus or buddah or whatever you might consider to be "god".
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I am led to understand that some of you have no hope for your future other than an eternal dirt nap. If that is so,
I don't really understand that,yet.
lalliv01, in reference to your comment, although I don't believe in the bible god, I do have hope for my future. After researching Near Death Experiences (NDE's) and Children's past life memories, I embraced the belief that death is not the end, but an end to the particular experience we are living at the time, I am at peace and feel that eventually we will all find out what happens in the end anyway! So I try to live everyday the best I can, and enjoy this experience, and help others do the same. I don't pray to the Creator for stuff, I just feel gratitude and give thanks. I don't feel that we need to worship anyone, that idea came from mens minds.
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SURVEY: Who Believes In "God"?
by minimus inand by that i mean the supreme being or jehovah or jesus or buddah or whatever you might consider to be "god".
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I agree with Eclipse...I don't believe in the bible god, however, do believe that some kind of Creator made all of this happen, put all the necessary laws in place, created all that we would need and then some....and let us do with it what we may.
just my two cents,
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How Do You Get on the Cover of a BOrg Magazine?
by Clam indoes anyone know where the models come from who appear on awakea and watchtowera magazines?
it would make sense to me that theyre dubsa as this would be saving the societya money.
or are they worldlya people?
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I have through the years seen many people I knew from NY in the Mags, mainly these are people that are JW Elite you know, pioneers, elders, bethelites, MS's that kissed alot of butt, my brother told me something quite interesting about the WTS's Youth video, he said that a few of the kids that were on it were living double lives, involved in drinking, premarital sex and so on, but in the KH were little saints, he knows because he has always been on the fringe himself and hung out with them, he said alot of those kids are no longer JW's. Wow and to think, I used to beel so inadecuate because I couldn't be a Regular Pioneer!!! boy am I glad I never wasted my time in that way, now!!!
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