You are welcome Gopher, I accidentally posted this twice, because the formatting was messed up, so there are two topics about this. Anyway, the Abraham thing always intrigued me when I was a witness, years ago while I was still an active JW, I asked my Mom who is a staunch JW regular pioneer, why there was no tomb of Abraham or of any other bible person, she said that Jehoover made sure that there would be no hero worship by keeping their burial places hidden, and my poor brainwashed mind accepted that explanation, although with a little hesitation. I am marked it on my calendar and will post a reminder on that week. IC
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Holy Moses! PBS documentary suggests Exodus not real
by ICBehindtheCurtain inthis will be very interesting, i only wish it would make the rounds on the jw emails the same way "knocking" did, fat chance!
we can only hope that pbs and nova will jump on this bandwagon as well, sooner than later.
holy moses!
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Holy Moses! PBS documentary suggests Exodus not real
by ICBehindtheCurtain inthis will be very interesting, i only wish it would make the rounds on the jw emails the same way "knocking" did, fat chance!
we can only hope that pbs and nova will jump on this bandwagon as well, sooner than later.
holy moses!
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Thanks VM44 for re-formatting that, I wasn't able to do it at the time. I learned of some of these things a while back while doing research on the Bible stories, it really brought the whole thing tumbling down, that and when I read the passages in the bible where you can clearly see it is describing Yaweh as a Volcano god, yeah interesting indeed! IC
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Holy Moses! PBS documentary suggests Exodus not real
by ICBehindtheCurtain inthis will be very interesting, i only wish it would make the rounds on the jw emails the same way "knocking" did, fat chance!
we can only hope that pbs and nova will jump on this bandwagon as well, sooner than later.
holy moses!
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What happened to the formatting? Sorry guys. IC
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Holy Moses! PBS documentary suggests Exodus not real
by ICBehindtheCurtain inthis will be very interesting, i only wish it would make the rounds on the jw emails the same way "knocking" did, fat chance!
we can only hope that pbs and nova will jump on this bandwagon as well, sooner than later.
holy moses!
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This will be very interesting, I only wish it would make the rounds on the JW emails the same way "knocking" did, FAT CHANCE! We can only hope that PBS and Nova will jump on this bandwagon as well, sooner than later. Holy Moses! PBS documentary suggests Exodus not real http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/tv/orl-exodus2108jul21,0,7755323.story Holy Moses! PBS documentary suggests Exodus not real Hal Boedeker | Sentinel Television Critic July 21, 2008 BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. - Abraham didn't exist? The Exodus didn't happen? The Bible's Buried Secrets, a new PBS documentary, is likely to cause a furor. "It challenges the Bible's stories if you want to read them literally, and that will disturb many people," says archaeologist William Dever, who specializes in Israel's history. "But it explains how and why these stories ever came to be told in the first place, and how and why they were written down." The Nova program will premiere Nov. 18. PBS presented a clip and a panel discussion at the summer tour of the Television Critics Association. The program says the Bible was written in the sixth century BC and that hundreds of authors contributed. "At least the first five books of the Bible come together during the Babylonian exile," says producer Gary Glassman. The program challenges long-held beliefs. Abraham, Sarah and their offspring probably didn't exist, says Carol Meyers, a religion professor at Duke University. "These stories are unlikely to represent real historical events, but rather there's some kernel of ancient experience in there which has survived and which helps give identity to the people at the time the Bible finally took shape centuries and centuries later," Meyers says. There's no archaeological evidence of the Exodus, either, she says, but "it doesn't mean that there's no kernel of truth to it." Nova series producer Paula Apsell says she found it "extremely shocking" to learn that monotheism was a process that took hundreds of years. "I was always brought up to believe that the minute Abraham and the patriarchs came on the scene, the Israelites accepted one God and there was just always one God and that was it," Apsell says. "I think people are going to really be stunned by that." Another shocker: The program contradicts the biblical view that the Israelites came from somewhere else into the land of Canaan. "The film shows that they were Canaanites," Apsell says. IC
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Holy Moses! PBS documentary suggests Exodus not real
by ICBehindtheCurtain inthis will be very interesting, i only wish it would make the rounds on the jw emails the same way "knocking" did, fat chance!
we can only hope that pbs and nova will jump on this bandwagon as well, sooner than later.
holy moses!
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ICBehindtheCurtain
This will be very interesting, I only wish it would make the rounds on the JW emails the same way "knocking" did, FAT CHANCE! We can only hope that PBS and Nova will jump on this bandwagon as well, sooner than later. Holy Moses! PBS documentary suggests Exodus not real http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/tv/orl-exodus2108jul21,0,7755323.story Holy Moses! PBS documentary suggests Exodus not real Hal Boedeker | Sentinel Television Critic July 21, 2008 BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. - Abraham didn't exist? The Exodus didn't happen? The Bible's Buried Secrets, a new PBS documentary, is likely to cause a furor. "It challenges the Bible's stories if you want to read them literally, and that will disturb many people," says archaeologist William Dever, who specializes in Israel's history. "But it explains how and why these stories ever came to be told in the first place, and how and why they were written down." The Nova program will premiere Nov. 18. PBS presented a clip and a panel discussion at the summer tour of the Television Critics Association. The program says the Bible was written in the sixth century BC and that hundreds of authors contributed. "At least the first five books of the Bible come together during the Babylonian exile," says producer Gary Glassman. The program challenges long-held beliefs. Abraham, Sarah and their offspring probably didn't exist, says Carol Meyers, a religion professor at Duke University. "These stories are unlikely to represent real historical events, but rather there's some kernel of ancient experience in there which has survived and which helps give identity to the people at the time the Bible finally took shape centuries and centuries later," Meyers says. There's no archaeological evidence of the Exodus, either, she says, but "it doesn't mean that there's no kernel of truth to it." Nova series producer Paula Apsell says she found it "extremely shocking" to learn that monotheism was a process that took hundreds of years. "I was always brought up to believe that the minute Abraham and the patriarchs came on the scene, the Israelites accepted one God and there was just always one God and that was it," Apsell says. "I think people are going to really be stunned by that." Another shocker: The program contradicts the biblical view that the Israelites came from somewhere else into the land of Canaan. "The film shows that they were Canaanites," Apsell says. IC
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HERE IS THE STORY......SO FAR.........
by Terry in1. a tribal myth was passed from generation to generation that the jews were a special and chosen people who would be above every other nation.. jehovah's darlings!
the lord's favorites!
kings, priests, rulers over everybody else!.
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That was great Terry! Brilliant as usual! Thanks, IC
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Came to this site to research.. J.W
by cluless ini came to this site initially to research about jehovahs witnesses.and oboy what i learnt.
goodbye to that believe system.. but was it really necessary that i also now no longer see the bible as the word of god ?..and am turning athiest...?.
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Hello Clueless, and Welcome to JWD! There is so much to learn once you find out that your old beliefs were based on lies. After much research I came to the conclusion that bible is not the word of god, instead it's an ancient book put together by different men to control the people. That however, does not mean I don't believe in a Creator, I just don't believe that the bible god is the Creator. The god of the bible had human attributes and emotions. You should check out the Deism website, Deists believe in Natures God, they don't believe in organized religion, the website has interesting information. Good luck on your quest! IC
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This is great V! I can't wait to share this with some JW's I know!
Thanks,
IC
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Excellent Terry, Thanks! Blondie thank you also!
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If there is a God - I'm REALLY PI$$ED at him
by AWAKE&WATCHING ini've got one post for the next 14 hours so i figure i'll make it count.. when i was 21 i began to really question the state of the world.
you know- "is this life all there is, yadda yadda.
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I was once where you are now, wondering why it seemed that we had been abandoned by God, and looking at all the good that could be done if there was some sort of intervention. Well, I kept reading and searching for answers, and came to a few conclusions, they are my own, everyone is free to think as they want, I mean who really knows? I do believe in a Creator/Creatress who designed everything we see, I do not believe that the Bible is the word of God, I just think it's composed of myths, stories some invented some borrowed, some historical tidbits here and there.
I don't believe God wants to intervene I think we have to figure it out for ourselves, we have the resources, the abilities to make a difference here on earth and many people already have. It's up to us and that is a very scary thought for many people they would rather believe in pretty fairytales that solve all our questions but supply no real solutions. I have more to say, but have to go and cook right now, so that is my two cents so far.
I wish you peace
IC