Posts by ICBehindtheCurtain

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The GREAT tribulation

by PoppyR in

does anyone else remember horror stories about the great tribulation and what they would do to the witnesses etc.. i remember this being the big topic of conversation for years, then like lots of jw doctrine, they quietly swept it out of the arena, and now it's never mentioned.

i remember pioneering with a girl who couldn't sleep at night and kept praying she'd be strong enough to endure it!

i actually have a talk on tape from a member of the gb where he spoke about ministers swinging from lamposts.. gruesome or what!!

ICBehindtheCurtain

This I think was a major cause for my depression, and anxiety, I remember that when I was a child I pictured and had nightmares about them taking my mom away, torturing her and me until we told them whatever they wanted, and wondering if I would be strong enough or if I would deny Jehovah, a child shouldn't have to worry about horrific things like that. Then when I grew up and had my own children, it was worse, now the fear that what if they take my children and torture them in front of me, will I be strong? What if they torture me in front of my kids? or will I betray my beliefs? WHAT CRAP!!!!!!!!!

I will tell you, that when I found out it was all a LOAD OF BS!!! It was like lifting an elephant off my back, the joy and happiness I have felt after that is immense, the people I have been able to enlighten feel the same way, we have a new lease on life, and life is wonderful, of course there are ups and downs that is part of growing as person, part of life, but I no longer fear the BS of TRIBULATION or ARMAGGEDON!!

I enjoy gardening and other extracurricular activities that before made me feel guilty, because I felt I should be preaching instead or studying for meetings etc, now I can do things to actually help others not get them to join this friggin CULT!

IC (of the It's great to be enlightened class)

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Nate Merit having surgery today

by VM44 in

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nate merit, the author of "jehovah unmasked", is having open heart surgery today.. let's all wish him a quick and speedy recovery.. --vm44

ICBehindtheCurtain

I hope everything goes well for you Nate , our thoughts and prayers are with you.

IC

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Do you believe the WTBTS is guilty?

by Honesty in

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do you believe the wtbts is guilty of spiritual abuse?

what are some of the reasons for your view on this subject?

ICBehindtheCurtain

Blondie, I forgot to commend you, for that excellent info. you posted, THANKS!

IC

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Do you believe the WTBTS is guilty?

by Honesty in

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do you believe the wtbts is guilty of spiritual abuse?

what are some of the reasons for your view on this subject?

ICBehindtheCurtain

YES!!!!

IC

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Jan 1st WT: Reaching out, Higher Education and Providing for one's needs

by truthseeker in

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well, as a nice start to the new year, the jan 1st watchtower article, "how firm is your trust in god" blasts those who live comfortable lives, those who don't reach out, and those who pursue higher education.. definitely, they are taking a harsher stand, having completely painted themselves into a corner.. i highlighted the interesting comments.

i did not include all the text for each paragraph, just the main points.. .

1 a young man wanted to be more useful to the congregation.

ICBehindtheCurtain

I would be wonderful if we could gather all of these articles on avoiding higher education, and quitting jobs to serve the WTS and take all of these to the Courts and have the R&F that have been harmed by that BS, sue the WTS for monetary support, since they are the ones telling people to do these things, it really burns me up, when I think of all the harm they are causing, I wish someone would follow the money trail, because I have come to believe that this Borg is run by those people, the ones that are getting those billions, and I would not doubt that the Zionists have something to do with that, not to start a conspiracy theory, but there are interesting things that have been said here to that effect.

If indeed the Zionist's are behind this, the lack of mentioning Jesus Christ in the publications all the while hiding behind the "we are true christians" crap, would all make sense.

IC

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Do you still want to believe?

by daniel-p in

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if the answer is "yes," please explain why.

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(i don't think this question needs explaining - i think you all know what i'm talking about.

ICBehindtheCurtain

YES and NO, now that I see all the pain this is causing to my Mom, who is devastated thinking that all her children and grandchildren are going to die in armaggedon, I wish I could just forget all we know now, and go back to believing the lies BUT, then I come back to my senses and see how much I've grown as a person, the joy we all feel knowing that life is so much more than we knew in that WTS box.

Giving up the WTS earthly paradise idea, was painful, until I learned that we go on after death, and get to see all our loved ones, and heaven is what you believe it to be, for some it is standing before the throne of God, for others it is a beautiful earth like paradise and so on, that brought much joy and comfort back to my life, as far as my Mom goes, she will have to learn to accept me for who I am, we should love our children unconditionally, kids grow up, and they have a mind of their own, but I want to be there for them no matter what beliefs they want to embrace, as long as it doesn't envolve killing people.

I AM FREE, and I wouldn't trade that for anything!

by the way SeattleNiceGuy I love what you wrote, had to print it out, thanks.

IC

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Tax the churches

by startingover in

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i came upon this letter to the editor in my morning newspaper:.

churches ought to be taxed like others.

after sept. 11, 2001, i think it was jerry falwell who said that it happened because people turned away from god.

ICBehindtheCurtain

Amen to that!

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details in comm. meeting?

by myvalk in

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anyone have any idea how much details of the wrongdoing the elders will be asking in a comm.

meeting?

and does refusal to answer mean im getting df'd?

ICBehindtheCurtain

My sister and I were just talking about this, someone close to us might be dragged into a JC meeting, and basically we told him to just pretend to be really sorry, and repentant, and very humble, they won't know any different without 2 witnesses. The funny thing, no, one of the funny things about this religion is that the way it's structured, as long as you don't disagree with what they say, or have a haughty attitude when called in, you can fool them, because we know it doesn't matter either way, the end result is that they end up with many people who are JW's just to not lose their social life or family, who put in fake hours and can inform others about the lies and contradictions about the religion, and they will never know who did it.

So in essence they create their own monsters, when a family member is df'd they are told "well, you know what you have to do, to have a relationship with us again", essentially you are bribed into coming back, although some people don't care and are just glad to be out, others are devastated and alone in the world, and eventually swallow their pride and although they no longer believe in the ~~"Lie"~~ , "Truth" they come back, and get their freinds and family back, this is all such BS .

IC (of the, God let the "Watchtower the Great", fall SOON! class)

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Masonic Infiltration of this board

by stillajwexelder in

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there are freemasons infiltrating this board.

i have positive proof.

all be careful

ICBehindtheCurtain

What's the big deal about the Freemasons anyway? I've read some stuff about them, I don't think the thing about Devil worship is true, just some rituals similar to what the Egyptians did, I don't see what the big deal in that is? If someone here is a Mason, Id'e like to learn more.

I read this book The Hiram Key, very interesting read, they say that the real Jesus was a member of the Essene sect and they did Masonic rituals, at this point I've learned that anything is possible.

IC

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JOURNAL ENTRY: Sun. Nov. 13.

by stillAwitness in

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sunday novermber 13, 2005

dear diary,.

do you think that scripture that says god won't give us more than we can bear is true?

ICBehindtheCurtain

Stilla, that was GREAT! Thanks, Hey Popeye's chicken is sounding really good to me right now. Take care and keep up the good work!

IC