Trojan, this is a great post! And YES I COMPLETELY AGREE!!! Have you ever seen the movie "The Village"? It is eerily similar to what is done to the people by the leaders in JW life.
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The GREATEST IRONY of Shunning and Disfellowshiping
by Trojan ini have lately started to think many things over.
as i adquire more knowledge, or other kind of knowledge, i see things more and more in another light.
it's a strange and thrilling experience i'm going through.
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Watchtower Connected With Mafia, Drugs, Jewish Firms that Financed Nazis
by Rig Boy inrussell trust association's friends
(4 ratings).
more about this connection...
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ICBehindtheCurtain
Interesting!!! I wrote in the search box "Watchtower Bible and Tract Society" and this came up, although when clicking on the lind it doesn't show their name, maybe hidden? I don't know but it's quite interesting! Thanks for posting this.
IC
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THE GIRL WITH THE MOON IN HER EYES
by Terry ini just finished recording this composition.. anybody want to write a lyric?.
i'm going to send it to corina brouder to sing on her next album.
t.. here is the music file.
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Terry, that is truly beautiful, I used to write poetry, but have also lost my muse for years now, oh, I write things here and there but not like before. I hope you find the appropriate words for that. If I think of something I will pm you.
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BUY a Kingdom Hall and Turn It Into........????
by lisaBObeesa inokay i will buy a kingdom hall and tell them it is going to be a new church called "the church of ex-jehovah witnesses".
or call it "church of apostates" .
do you think they will deny me ? i'd sue the crap out of them if they did... .
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THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!!!! , it would also eliminate the sudden "but where do we go" fear of departing ones.
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An Especially Stupid Watchtower Issue (Mar 15, 06)
by metatron inwhat makes this latest watchtower particularily dumb?
well, let's see.. take a look at this gem:.
" ...would a christian who is a self employed contractor bid on a job that involves painting one of the churches of christendom and thereby.
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Unbelievable isn't it? They just love to demonize other religions and critisize them for doing what they themselves do. But since the majority of the dubs are braindead and don't know about the true reasons for the WTS joining the UN as an NGO, or the RANDCAM and Phillip Morris stock they own, they just sit there listening to all this CRAP and believe it ALL, all the while feeling superior to other religions.
It's just unbelievable how ridiculous the WTS really is, spewing this kind of garbage!
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A Muslim thinks JW's are a Menace to them
by ICBehindtheCurtain inhey guys, i found the following to be quite interesting, they have some great links to jw literature, maybe this will help the lurkers to see that the house to house preaching waste of time, is pretty redundant as many religious people are now wise to the fallacy of the borg.
what to you guys think?.
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Robdar, you are welcome! I also think it's the pot calling the kettle black, they can and have good reason to critisize the JW's but they should take a look at themselves and see the stupidity that is costing so many lives.
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WHO R ANOINTED TODAY?
by PMJ ini personaly belivive the people who r anointed on earth today would be lovers of god and they would be united in thought of the only true god jehovah and his son jesus christ
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PMJ, after close to a years worth of research I have come to the conclusion that although the bible is beneficial in some ways, like the book of Proverbs, Psalms. I don't believe that it is what it claims to be, I don't believe it is god inspired. I believe this book consists of stories that were borrowed from other civilizations, they copied rituals, building designs, and beliefs, please research the civilization of the Sumerians. Because of this and other things I've learned, I don't believe there are annointed people as portayed by the JW's, there may be people that are schizofrenic who hear voices and see visions, but this is due to an illness or maybe there are people that are very in tune with their spiritual side and just feel a closeness to the devine or God, I have personally felt this at times.
I believe there are special people on this Earth that do wonderful things for others, they come from all different faiths, sometimes these people are even atheists or agnostic. What does it really matter? What really matters is that while we are here on this planet we care for each other whether the other person belongs to our religion or not, that we teach our children to be loving, respectful and tolerant of others differences and beliefs and that when our time is up here and we face death, we know that we made a difference!
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A Muslim thinks JW's are a Menace to them
by ICBehindtheCurtain inhey guys, i found the following to be quite interesting, they have some great links to jw literature, maybe this will help the lurkers to see that the house to house preaching waste of time, is pretty redundant as many religious people are now wise to the fallacy of the borg.
what to you guys think?.
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Hey guys, I found the following to be quite interesting, they have some great links to JW literature, maybe this will help the lurkers to see that the house to house
preachingwaste of time, is pretty redundant as many religious people are now wise to the fallacy of the Borg. What to you guys think?IC
A MUSLIM GUIDE TO COUNTERING JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES The greatest menace to Muslim homes in the West
by Malik Ali
As a Muslim who lives in a Western country, I have come to realise that the greatest harassment comes from a Christian sect that numbers a mere 6-7 million; the Jehovah's Witnesses. The Muslims come across them so often for the very factor that they come knocking on their doors. The group was born in the U.S.A. (Like almost every other cult you might come across) and every weekend they come armed with their contrived New World Translation Bible and their Awake, Watchtower magazines; they'll come pounding on your doors. Yes, the lady and the gentleman who come dressed in business suits. No their not trying to sell you products, but "simply" to destroy your Iman in exchange for their humorous "The world is coming to an end" cult.
Many Muslims are aware of their failed past prophecies; but it's usually your word against theirs. The purpose of this page is to expose these cultist using their own tools. The following are scanned Photostats of the past magazines of Awake and the Watchtower. Articles that these cultists dread if any one was to come across; yet over the past decades they have been handing them out door to door, country to country. The Jehovah's Witnesses view the Islamic faith as satanic, they have written anti-Islamic materials and even travel to Muslim countries to try and witness (their euphemism for convert) to our brethren. Muslims have to understand that Christianity is not a monolithic rock, it comprises of innumerable sects that differ on almost every theological aspect of the Christian faith, and to defend yourselves against it you have to understand the nature of these offspring's. it is pointless arguing with a Jehovah's Witness that the Bible says this and says that. Trying to bring up contradictions, the humanity of Jesus (incidentally, they don't believe Jesus is God, but still acknowledge his divine sonship), etc. Their faith seems to belong in a man made organisation, the Watchtower in New York. They'll vehemently deny this; but ask them where all their magazines, Bibles, commentries, religious books and guides are printed. Their are many former Jehovah's Witnesses that have entered the fold of Islam (ironically, it starts from them having visited a Muslim home in order to witness). Although many are trained not to listen, you as a believer can only do your best, and leave the rest to Allah (swt). This page is meant mainly as a defense for Muslims, and not necessarily Dawah to them.
I recommend for Muslims who regularly come into contact with Jehovah's Witnesses, to print out the scanned Photostat articles following from the links below. Trust me, once you've shown them this. They'll give you a pathetic defense and stand their pretending their shocked, and most of them will never come to your houses again. It's difficult for someone to swallow their own past failures that now go against their dogma.
STEP BY STEP, WE BEGIN
STEP 1.The book of Deuteronomy 18:20-22 sets a standard on how to judge if a Prophet is from God.
And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.Well, it's simple. This is a criteria that Muslims can also agree to, if a Prophet is from God, any Prophecy he makes should eventuate as claimed. This would be the sole ultimate proof of the Prophets genuineness. If the prophecies don't come to pass, then the so-called Prophet is a false Prophet. And hence he is not being guided by God at all, we shall not be afraid (respect) of them, let alone of what they teach. As you'll see, the Jehovah's Witnesses headquarters (the Watchtower in Brooklyn, New York) claims to be a body of Prophets as those sent to the peoples of the Biblical era.
STEP 2.
WHO GUIDES THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY? Just incase they tell you they've always relied on human wisdom (or lack of it). You must show them that the Watchtower claims to be a Prophet of Jehovah (God). If they don't acknowledge it, then it is really pointless exposing to them the failed prophecy articles coming up. But they usually will confirm that the Watchtower organisation is indeed "inspired and guided" by God almighty.
WHAT DO THE WATCHTOWER MAGAZINES GLEAM WITH? "the scriptural and prophetic truths"
STEP 3.
WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN TO HUMANITY IN 1918? Take one big guess
WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN TO HUMANITY IN 1925
AND WHICH PROPHETS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE RESURRECTED? Oops, I think our calculations were wrongWHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IN 1975? and it wasn't Muhammad Ali's boxing victory against Joe Frazier
STEP 4.
LETTING THE CAT OUT OF THE BAG? Who makes false prophecies?
You can now see the false nature of the Jehovah's Witnesses. According to the criteria set by God to Moses, the Jehovah's Witnesses are a false body. Not withstanding the religious factor, on a legal and material basis, they have duped thousands into doing ludicrous things prior to these expected prophecies; such as selling their property and cars at ridiculous cheap rates. After all, your not going to need your BMW, Benz and mansion in the hereafter.
THEIR BIBLE
But there's more, the same organisation that claims God guides and the Holy Spirit inspires their Awake and Watchtower magazines. Published an article in 1957, entitled "50 000 Errors in the Bible" . Print the 2 pages out. Let the Jehovah's Witness read it, and their initial shock will subside and they'll most likely say (once the Holy Ghost has "inspired" him or her) "The article says most of the 50 000 errors have been corrected" (in their New World Translation.) Indeed that is what the article reads, but wait!
Ask them "If most of the errors have been corrected, how many remain; 5 000, 500, 50. Or even if 50 errors remained. Would you attribute those 50 errors to God"They'll look shocked, scanning their eyes through the article. After some weak ums and buts, they'll usually come to two points in the end.This is what you can likely expect; they'll ask you if they can take the article or the publication date in order to go to their
past archives and verify if its genuine. Be generous, and allow them to do so.The next thing they'll say is that they will come with a senior member of their Kingdom Hall (Church) to discuss this issue. In other words they won't come again. And if you had given them the extract, without question they will not come again, (Probably thinking that it's the only copy you have). In all my encounters with them, they have never come back. Maybe you could be lucky..
For some reason, it's like they're programmed to come up with the same responses and postures. That's why I've found them to be very predictable; and you'll most likely too.
THE NAME JEHOVAH
In regards to the Name Jehovah, you can read Sheikh Ahmed Deedats book What is his name?. In the chapter under the heading Who is Jehovah?. An excellent essay I have come across is by Gerald Sigal,
THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY AND THE NAME OF GOD located at the Jews for Judaism site. Yep, you're not alone, even our cousins are wary of these cultists. Another great essay by the same author has written
THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES? The thesis is about how Jehovah's Witnesses attempt to cover up their failed prophecies.Both the essays above are brief and is a must read.
I have written up a page giving the names of Jehovah in many languages of the world. You'll be shocked, no the English speaking cultists have not settled for one name. They've allowed many nations and cultures around the world to distort the supposed name of God into various stylish names. Get this, the Japanese Jehovah's Witnesses pronounce the "divine name" as Ehoba. Well I guess the cult can claim to cater for all cultural tastes. Despite the fact that the Semitic peoples (Jews and Arabs) have always placed an emphasis on correct vocal pronunciation of any name or concept; especially the name of God Almighty.
STORIES OF CONVERTS
FROM THE WATCHTOWER TO THE MINARETA story of a Jehovah's Witness who became a Muslim. Out of all the conversion stories I've ever read, this one has to be the most humorous of all.
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WHO DID JESUS SPEAK TO IN PRAYER?
by PMJ injesus spoke to jehovah god in prayer.jehovah being the allmighty god.the nt is centered around jesus.thats true but this does not mean jesus is the one we should worship.surley we should all want to pray to the god jesus prayed two
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Shootist, since I know the old man personally, I will ask the Wizard to give PMJ a logical brain, I have an appointment with him in the morning, don't worry PMJ tomorrow we'll have you all better!!!
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Now Available: Direct Quotes from Jehovahs Witness Literature by Topic
by Elsewhere in.
with many thanks for the great amount of help and work by atlantis and lady lee, i am proud to present a new information source that offers direct quotes from jehovahs witness literature by topic.. this site is much like quote's site, only in this case every topic not only contains quotes, there are also actual scans of the original publications that are quoted.. atlantis and lady lee did most of the hard work... all i am doing is hosting what they put together.
to view these new quotes, go to www.davidgladden.com and click on the very first link at the top of the page.
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Elsewhere and all who contributed to this, THANK YOU! This is GREAT! I am printing some of this stuff to put it in my WT Truth File together with some other goodies which I will continue to share with others.
THANKS!
IC