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  Knorr on 1914: "I don't know." - Mouthy Alert!

  by compound complex in

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  dear mouthy and other denounced ones,.

  you may find this double standard $%^@#@*&!

  "in 1975, knorr made a remarkable and candid statement to the governing body, which confirmed his growing disillusionment until his death two years later: ["]'"there are some things i know --- i know that jehovah is god, that christ jesus is his son, that he gave his life as a ransom for us, that there is a resurrection.

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  Ingenuous

  Does anyone remember what killed the little monkey in "Raiders of the Lost Ark"? BAD DATES!

  LOL!
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  I was robbed because I don't serve Jehovah...Yeah Right!

  by LynnTink in

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  once again i am shocked.

  you would think i would be usted to it by now.

  wait til you hear this one.

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  Ingenuous

  So sorry. I'll probably hear something similar from my parents one of these days. It's not fair, dealing with your material loss and having to be the adult in the relationship with your mother.
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  Toasting is wrong because.........

  by Gill in

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  so why, according to the feb 15th watchtower is toasting wrong?.

  apparantly:.

  'toasting today may not be viewed by many as a religious gesture.

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  I thought toasting was wrong because the noise from the glasses was believed to scare away demons?

  Really stupid demons...
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  Women are in subjection to their husbands and to the Elders!!!!!

  by Gill in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the february 15th watchtower 2007, is spectacularly nauseating!!!

  at least i found it so.. i would welcome the opinion of all on the board to this sentiment on page 19, paragraph 8 and9:.

  'although subjection can be challenging, women can welcome it as honorable, even as did jesus.

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  Ingenuous

  When women follow God's direction to do so, they set an example for the angels in God's organization arrangement.

  According to the Bible, the angels were around before the earth was even created. If they don't know how to act by now, that's not my problem.

  Remember that Eve was deceived, but Adam, not deceived, but chose to not lose Eve as a companion and joined in her disobedience. There is something different in the thinking process of women and men, for which reason men are to have the teaching role in doctrinal matters.

  This doesn't make sense to me anymore. Why is being honestly and actually deceived [Eve] worse than knowing better and doing wrong anyway [Adam]? How does being willfully and knowingly disobedient qualify someone for "the teaching role in doctrinal matters?"
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  Protect your assets, use a JW

  by startingover in

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  2. friends

  subject: excerpt from book.

  "how to protect your identity and your assets" by j.j. luna.. .

  although they call their church buildings "kingdom halls" we look them .

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  Ingenuous

  Well, they don't mind taking the recommendation and running with it:

  http://www.testigosdejehova.es/e/20030201/article_02.htm

  "IN CONSTANT DEMAND"
  

  "Whatever you are doing, work at it whole-souled as to Jehovah, and not to men," says the Bible. ( Colossians 3:23 ) Obviously, one whose work ethic is governed by this fine principle would be a sought-after employee. For that reason, J. J. Luna, in his book How to Be Invisible, advises potential employers to search out active members of certain religious groups, but he adds: "In actual practice we usually end up with [Jehovah's] Witnesses." Among the reasons he gives is that they are well-known for their honesty, and that puts them "in constant demand" in various fields.
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  Your favorite "bumper stickers"

  by new boy in

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  i have two.

  "please god protect me from your people".

  "if you love something let go.......if it doesn't come back, hunt in down and kill it" .

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  "If you're going to ride my ass, at least pull my hair."

  "Jesus loves you - everyone else thinks you're an asshole."

  "Talk nerdy to me."
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  how can we answer them?

  by Cordelia in

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  i've tried and i've tried now i need help, how do you answer:.

  jws who think it's fantastic that jeh is providing this new light all the time, i say about the rev book amongst other things and they just think it's a sign they are in the right religon coz '''what other religon would admit it's faults?

  '' doesnt matter they been studing wrong light last time!!.

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  how do you answer that esp when a part of you is scared they have a point????? well not a piont but a 'what if it could be right tiny feeling!!!'

  I've had that niggling feeling, Cordelia. It's part of the "super ego" monstrocity we're left with when we leave.

  I had to ask myself: if this were reallly from God, would I be sitting here feeling uncertain and confused? If God wanted me to know something, wouldn't he be clear about it and I be sure of it - without doubt?

  I had to remind myself why I left in the first place: because of issues which were not reflections of mere idiosyncracies or random imperfections, but because of problems which were inexcusable in the face of reason and the basic kindness and respect which distinguishes humanity from inhumanity.
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  What's the most stupid comment a JW told you?

  by JH in

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  i remember when i was new in the "troof", i was walking in a mall and a jw window washer saw me, and asked, "what are you doing here"?.

  yeah, he had a good reason to be at the mall, cause he was washing windows, but i had no business there.... i guess he thought that i was being seduced by material stuff.... and i was stupid enough, not to tell him, mind your own business fu**er....

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  Ingenuous

  "Pioneers who have to come off the list get depressed because Jehovah withdraws His spirit from them. Since they don't go out as much, they don't need as much holy spirit."

  I was still "in" at the time and asked the uber-Witness who said this to me, "If God doesn't try anyone with evil, why would He purposely do something he knows would harm someone?" Blank stare - no answer - change of topic.
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  Has anyone read any Echart Tolle?

  by new boy in

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  2. experiences

  "the power of now".

  "a new earth".

  i must say both books blew me away.......................life changing!

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  Ingenuous

  I've seen a lot of people into New Thought who recommend Tolle. Is his philosophy NT oriented?
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  "Family day" Is this a new jdub thing?

  by cultswatter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know of jws that celebrate "family day" at this time of year.

  i have asked these jw about where they got the term "family day" was it from the watchtower?

  they seem to deny the watchtower had ever mentioned "family day", but i can sense they are trying to hide something here.

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  Ingenuous

  I am (was) 3rd generation and never heard of "Family Day", though my folks started giving my sister and me presents on their Anniversary the last few years I was still at home.