definitely the Village. I saw that movie three times in the theater and was floored each time at all the parallels.
1984 - only saw the movie once when I was like eleven, but the book is like a glimpse in to the governing body's secret operations manual.
Fight Club - I've always loved this movie, but it really resonated while on was on the road out the door.
"This was freedom. Losing all hope was freedom"
"It's only after you've lost everything, that you're free to do anything."
"When you have insomnia, you're never really asleep, and you're never really awake."
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Films/movies that resonate with Apostates
by Black Man inthere are a few films that i really connect with that sum up my j-dub experiences........ .
shawshank redemption: if you've ever "served time" at bethel, you can't help but connect with this film.
institutionalization, mental persecution and "andy dufrene crossing through 500 yards of shit, came out clean on the other side.
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Do you think this is tacky and just plain pathetic (Watchtower) ?????
by run dont walk ini just returned from ontario, where a family member died, i was reading the obit, and i know its been said millions of times, but this really blew me away.
"a private family burial at ______ cemetery.
a memorial service will be held at the kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses on saturday august 13, 2005 at 2:00 p.m. as expressions of sympathy, please send donations to world wide work of jehovah's witnesses.".
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"As expressions of sympathy, please send donations to World Wide Work Of Jehovah's Witnesses."
Translation= "The size of your donation will show the depth of your grief."
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Plain Truth Magazine plug: It is basically all anti-cult all the time!!!
by Check_Your_Premises ini got a free subscription from ptm.org for one year.
for those of you not familiar with the story of the world wide church of god, they were a cult remarkeably similar to the jw doctrinally.
it was founded by herbert armstrong.. after his death they went through a remarkeable and turbulent reformation.
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Although I definitely agree that PTM has there own agenda (recruitment in to the 'new and improved' Worldwide Church of God), I know that when I first read the apology that they published in PTM, what struck me most was that it allowed the members to decide whether or not they wanted to leave or stay. It gave them a dignified way out.
Unfortunately, that is not a type of apology I could EVER see the WTBTS making. Especially the section that stated "There was never an intent to mislead anyone. We were so focused on what we thought we were doing for God that we didn’t recognize the spiritual path we were on. Intended or not, that path was not the Biblical one." I respect the ones that crafted that public apology for the reason that it gave their R&F an admission of guilt, and didn't shift the blame to those same R&F. That's the kind of psychological signpost that would be the most helpful, and safe, in allowing the R&F JWs to transition out of the brainwashing bin.
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Definition of Apostasy from the Reasoning Book: "Apostasy is abandoning or deserting the worship and service of God, actually a rebellion against Jehovah God. Some apostates profess to know and serve God but reject teachings or requirements set out in his Word. Others claim to believe the Bible but reject Jehovah's organization."
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Very good apologetics for honest seekers
by Shining One inare you tired of the arrogant assertions of the elite ex-jw clique here?
here is some powerful ammunition to "demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of god"!
http://www.carm.org/evidence.htm .
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Shining One,A)you said"If you don't like my opinion then just ignore me," -- this explains why you ignore anyone who disputes your logic. Also, you are not stating things as opinion, you are stating them as truth.
B)you said"but don't pretend that you have the corner on truth ,facts and integrity." --this is exactly what you are doing.
C)you said"Your whining about God is pathetic and arrogant." --I previously took a cheap shot at your spelling, which you pointed out. I posted, on page 1 of this thread,
":Doing what JWs do is not my idea of good exgesis ." --Shining One
Rex, the impact of pretentious diction is lost when you don't spell the word correctly. Not that you're going over anyone's head anyway."
I apologize, it was an ad hominem attack, but you did not respond at all to the comments that followed, which addressed your argument. In your comment above, you not only resort to flat out name-calling, you again don't address the issue.
C)you said1) God rules by divine providence.
2) Man knew the rules.
3) Man broke the rules.
4) Man chose to rebel, separating himself from God.
5) God covered man's sin.
6) God provided a savior for man.
7) He died for man to be reconciled: He took the hit.
8) YOU have a choice. -- again, to use your own words, "don't pretend that you have the corner on truth, facts and integrity." You list these eight things as if they are established and undisputed fact, not just your opinion.
D)you said"If Christianity is true, you are eternally damned; if it is not true you are eventually just dead." --this is just a narrow-minded, twisted interpretation of Pascal's Wager.
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A Customer really pissed me off yesterday at work: SHE WANTS TO PRAY for me
by Terry ini work in a bookstore that specializes in buying its goods directly from the public second-hand and reselling them at half price.. .
it is a large chain of 83 stores in 8 states and does about 100 million a year.. .
i'm in charge of the religion and the philosophy sections.. .
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So if someone really believes that his prayer has the ability to open my eyes, why is there even a need to tell me about it? Isn't telling me about it just being self-serving?
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What did the "Godly Obedience" District Conventions really achieve?
by truthseeker inthis is a re-print of a post found on e-watchman's discussion board, a public forum.
it has a few interesting tidbits in there.
thought you might be interested.. by the way, does jwd have a policy about using posts from other boards, even if credit to the original author is given?.
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Well, many of us were pretty sure that the system couldn't go on past the year 2000 until they changed the generation definition in 1995.
That was when I became a real Cognitive Dissident.
I guess they haven't ever really stopped hinting at dates, and then putting the blame on the R&F for "making assumptions" when they don't come to pass. -
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"Finally we know 'what is the question to which the answer is 42'". Thank you.
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Nun confronts Hanks over 'Da Vinci Code'
by William Penwell inread this today on cnn.
the other night there was some catholic scholar referring to the book as being fiction.
i was confused as to whether he was referring to the "da vinci code" or the "bible"?
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I haven't read the DVC, but I did enjoy Angels and Demons. I thought it was entertaining.
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Went to Godly Obedience DC
by TheListener inwell, we finally attended the dc.
we couldn't go when assigned so we went this weekend instead.
i will say what a fine spiritually refreshing weekend it was!
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and I'll bet the bulk of the 25 were not even bible studies. Seems like the majority of the newly baptized are teenagers and young adults who are fulfilling their social contract, and not wanting to be thought of as "bad association".