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  Beautiful picture

  by philo in

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  ... http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010814/sc/flying_wing_10.html.

  i wonder how the watchtower or awake would propagandise this?.

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  It is very hard to get two planes at the same place at the same time even if you are trying to do so. It is only when they are on the ground or in the process of takeoff or landing where - if everything is done wrong - they possibly could bump into each other.

  An aircraft like this would present no hazard to commercial aviation. Just like any aircraft in controlled flight, it would follow a specific path to its target altitude. This one would stay three times higher than any civil traffic doing circles for a long time. It would then descend along another closely controlled flight path when its mission is over. Just because it is unmanned doesn't mean it is just flying around willy-nilly. It is still closely controlled both from the ground and internally. All aircraft in controlled airspace (manned or unmanned) will follow the same flight rules, and these have very wide margins of safety built in.
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  Memorial ultimatum

  by Ranchette in

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  i recieved this email and thought i'd share:.

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  i heard a piece of gossip the other day from a friend in california that i thought was outrageous and right on par for the borg.... it seems a 20-something sister in a southern calafornia congregation has dedided she is one of the annointed much to the chagrin of her elder body.they have tried everything to disuade her from this path.in a last ditch effort to come up with arguments against her, the elders'wives were sic'd on her and they came up with a piece of information that they felt would be useful...it seems this sister is also pregnant with her first child and is very much looking forward to breast-feeding.so the brothers told her that if she wants to partake at the next memorial she can't breastfeed---because the wine would transfer to the milk and the baby is not annointed!this sister is heart-broken,she feels she must choose between her motherly obligation and her spiritual one!.the advice i passed on to her via my grape-vine was to think long and hard what decision she might make if for some reason her baby needed a life-saving blood transfusion...if the borg won't let her take a sip of wine it will surely not let her save her childs life with a transfusion!.

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  This all sounds familiar - it is almost the same as one of the plotlines in the book DUNE, in which the mother drank the Water of Life while pregnant, and passed that along to her unborn child. I think the people at that Kingdom Hall are mixing their fictions.
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  Beautiful picture

  by philo in

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  ... http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010814/sc/flying_wing_10.html.

  i wonder how the watchtower or awake would propagandise this?.

  philo .

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  ChuckD

  I just wonder who was able to get above it to take the picture!

  Seriously, it really is a great accomplishment, and will pave the way for some great unmanned-aircraft-based communications systems at a fraction of the cost of putting up additional satellites.
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  So THIS is where Friday gets his information....

  by ChuckD in

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  http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0801/rectums.html

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  ChuckD

  . http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0801/rectums.html
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  Seriously: Was this board for active JWs??

  by Eyebrow in

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  i have rarely found anything written by active jws here.

  it causes me to wonder if this was actually set up by an active jw and got out of hand.

  especially since the site asks us not to stumble our brothers.. ooooo....i have been warned about evil boards like this!!

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  While a true Pyramid scheme or Ponsi operation is indeed illegal, MLM is not. The difference is that to qualify as MLM, there must be an actual product or service which is sold to people who are outside of the program. It still isn't exactly the way to fame and fortune, since it does count on being able to recruit enough underlings to support it and make a profit, which very few MLMers ever do. In practice, most sales of AMWAY products end up being purchases by the distributors themselves for personal use, hoping to keep their sales volums up until they are promoted to another level. The products are expensive, and non-competitive when compared to what you could buy the same stuff for at any department store.

  For some reason, many JW's are attracted to such programs. Perhaps it is from the connections they have with others in the organization, or perhaps because it is something that can be done at odd-hours. Can't say why, but more than once someone at the old Hall would stumble into it and be on a recruiting drive for a few weeks, until they burned out.

  It is interesting to note that Amway has an implied "Christian" theme running through it, and the bulk of its distributors proclaim their Christianity quite openly in sales meetings.
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  Suicide after convention

  by chasson in

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  a french co has died after an attempt to suicide in lyon, this week.. he have made his speech on the convention, and the next morning was found dead by the family where he sleep.. this is a personnal information, no french's newspaper have talked about it.. .

  bye.

  charles

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  This is accompanied by a picture of the depressed girl on the cover, now smiling and holding ... guess what?

  Must .... resist ....

  Must not say ..... must control urge ....

  Man, I have had some tempting "straight lines" come my way on this forum, but that one is a doozey.
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  All that waisted Time!

  by Ranchette in

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  i can't tell you how many times while out in service i would have these disturbing feelings:"this is such a waist of time.

  ""we are just driving our life away from nh to nh!

  " and"i'm acompolishing absolutly nothing!

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  ... or speak with a renowned authority in medicine, Dr. Pongo Ukwende (DC), from the Institut' D'mal Cabasa.

  Yes, medical science agrees, blood is dangerous and slippery!
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  All that waisted Time!

  by Ranchette in

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  i can't tell you how many times while out in service i would have these disturbing feelings:"this is such a waist of time.

  ""we are just driving our life away from nh to nh!

  " and"i'm acompolishing absolutly nothing!

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  Quite true.

  I find that the bulk of people who know anything at all about the witnesses simply dismiss the whole group as a bit "kooky," and think of it only as the people who God-bother them on an otherwise nice Saturday morning. I have yet to meet any of those people who the Watchtower and AWAKE! were always quoting as to how they thought the wintesses were so wonderful.
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  Suicide after convention

  by chasson in

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  a french co has died after an attempt to suicide in lyon, this week.. he have made his speech on the convention, and the next morning was found dead by the family where he sleep.. this is a personnal information, no french's newspaper have talked about it.. .

  bye.

  charles

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  Fred,

  Now we are getting somewhere. I appreciate your answers.

  You state that there would be occasions when an elder would recommend that someone seek professional help, right? Do you feel that elders, no matter how well-intentioned they may be, are qualified to recognize the signs of mental illness as opposed to "spiritial weakness" in someone who comes to them in a time of crisis?

  Remember, many members of the organization have been taught over and over to seek out council among the elders, and not to turn to worldly sources. Sure, people know that a cut on the hand requires a trip to the doctor for stitches, but can they recognize the signs of a serious depression that could lead to suicide?

  These are very serious issues Fred, and not something that should be dismissed flippantly. People entrust their lives to the organization, and can easily find themselves in a situation where the advice they get from those they look to for guidance is not the best.
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  Suicide after convention

  by chasson in

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  a french co has died after an attempt to suicide in lyon, this week.. he have made his speech on the convention, and the next morning was found dead by the family where he sleep.. this is a personnal information, no french's newspaper have talked about it.. .

  bye.

  charles

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  ChuckD

  Fred, I agree, but that was not my question. What I asked was this;

  Would someone who is suffering from depression be well served by seeking council from the elders, and if he or she did, would those elders be likely to recommend that the person seek needed professional help?