is it true statistically,j.w's suffer from depression far more than the rest of us?
I think it gets back to that oft-discussed topic, which is whether or not people who are already predisposed to depression and other mental illnesses are more likely to be recruited by the witnesses in the first place.
If there are any reliable statistics about depression among witnesses, I would find it interesting to see how these numbers break down between those who were "born into" the organization, and those who were brought in as adults.
i'd never fully realised it before, but jw's can't stand being laughed at.
they take themselves and their tinpot religion so seriously!.
oh, i know that they expect to be mocked and persecuted, they love all that because they think that prophesy is being fulfilled, but they do go bananas at the "what?
Beer is much like blood in this regard. He has to consume the unavoidable beer "fractions" such as alcohol, to get to the "darker elements" of Guinness which are valued for their medicinal effect. Sadly, these are chemically linked with the alcohol, so it presents a problem to the bible-trained conscience such as his. Members of the society's Pub Liaison Committee are available to help with any questions you may have.
when i was separating from my wife and leaving the jws, i had some visions.
for some strange reason, i decided not to eat for a day, then when i found my thinking clearer and my emotions mellower, i fasted for another two days.
so after the third day, i was walking down our street and i saw the houses burning after me, i felt this was an affirmation that marriage was decay and destruction, or wasteage.
By all means, I think people should read all of the letters which came in reply to that study. One issue that seems common to them is a tendency to discount the study since it was conducted by a nine-year-old. Remember that the participants in this study all agreed that that test conditions were fair in advance, and found fault only after the study showed results that were disfavorable.
I don't for a moment beleive that these practitioners are insincere. I am sure that they are truly committed to helping people, are really really believe that what they do works. As one letter on the site you cited says;
"The experiment by Ms Rosa and colleagues does more than demonstrate that the practitioners of TT are unable to sense the HEF. It also shows that they genuinely believe they can. The practitioners would not have allowed themselves to be tested otherwise. Their public responses to the article indicate that they will continue to believe they can and will be wary of future critical investigators of any age."
By all means, if anyone can cite some evidence that shows that it DOES work, please do so.
i guess i've just been naive.. i was surprized to find that some 'super loyal'.
witnesses i know have been practising witchcraft.. of course, they'd never call it that - it seems that.
when various illnesses arise you get out an assortment.
There have been studies showing that Chiropractic manipulation does provide relief from pain for people who are suffering from certain types of low back pain. These are studies that have stood up to review and are quite well accepted, even by the AMA. However, many (if not most) chiropracters go beyond this by claiming that their methods will help with all sorts of problems, from alergies to asthma, with little evidence to support such claims. That, more than anything else, is what has earned them a "fringe" label by many. My local phone book is replete with ads by chiropracters offering relief from dizziness, headaches, and arthritis, and every one mentions that they are willing to help you with your insurance company as well. One even offers "effective cellulite reduction" through her chiropractic treatment.
when i was separating from my wife and leaving the jws, i had some visions.
for some strange reason, i decided not to eat for a day, then when i found my thinking clearer and my emotions mellower, i fasted for another two days.
so after the third day, i was walking down our street and i saw the houses burning after me, i felt this was an affirmation that marriage was decay and destruction, or wasteage.
The link below provides some information on Theraputic Touch, including details of the very simple test that young Emily Rosa set up to see if practitioners could perform this activity under controlled conditions. This test was published in JAMA, and underwent the same peer-review that any such test should.
. http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/tt.html
Here is another link which details the story of a health worker who lobbied to have this practice removed from the hospital in which she worked;
. http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/ttprotest1.html
i guess i've just been naive.. i was surprized to find that some 'super loyal'.
witnesses i know have been practising witchcraft.. of course, they'd never call it that - it seems that.
when various illnesses arise you get out an assortment.
One big problem with this is that many "alternative" practitioners also instill in their clients a mistrust of real medicine, making them less likely to seek out or heed qualified advice. Plus, the majority of herbs that are sold as "all natural and safe", have their own unpredictable interactions with prescribed medicines, and very few of these interactions are documented since these remedies have never been subject to long-term controlled studies.
I always groan when I hear friends describe some medicine or supplement as good simply because it is "natural." I want to ask them; "So, it's good for you like snake venom? Soothing like poison ivy? Tasty like nightshade mushrooms? Those are all natural, too."
when i was separating from my wife and leaving the jws, i had some visions.
for some strange reason, i decided not to eat for a day, then when i found my thinking clearer and my emotions mellower, i fasted for another two days.
so after the third day, i was walking down our street and i saw the houses burning after me, i felt this was an affirmation that marriage was decay and destruction, or wasteage.
That was a double-vision.
when i was separating from my wife and leaving the jws, i had some visions.
for some strange reason, i decided not to eat for a day, then when i found my thinking clearer and my emotions mellower, i fasted for another two days.
so after the third day, i was walking down our street and i saw the houses burning after me, i felt this was an affirmation that marriage was decay and destruction, or wasteage.
My job is to make sure that doesn't happen! In fact, I was astonished to learn about the McDonald's scam, since the high-prize winners with instant lottery tickets are handled with very high security, and no one knows where they are. I would have thought they use the same dual-security methods we do. In the ideal system, we maintain a Chinese Wall between the people who print the tickets and the state, and another between the lottery staff and the ticket distribution process. This means that (hopefully) no one knows which stores even receive the big winners.
As far as the McDonald's guys are concerned, did they actually think that they could pull this off over and over without their getting caught? There is not enough money ON EARTH for me to do anything that could result in my being sent to prison for one day, much less for several years.
when i was separating from my wife and leaving the jws, i had some visions.
for some strange reason, i decided not to eat for a day, then when i found my thinking clearer and my emotions mellower, i fasted for another two days.
so after the third day, i was walking down our street and i saw the houses burning after me, i felt this was an affirmation that marriage was decay and destruction, or wasteage.
OK, the test is on! I have a color photograph of something placed in the middle of my desk right now. I scanned it in and mailed a copy to another person on this discussion board so that there is a record of the picture selected. You can view the photo via any means you wish, the easiest being to look through my office window here in Rhode Island. Do you expect to submit one sketch, or several? The more sketches you make, the more of a chance you have to get something close, and I don't know if that would be a very fair test.
RI is a Powerball state, and I may pick up a quick-pick ticket today. In fact, I make my living in the lottery industry (I wrote many of the programs that states use for tracking scratch-off tickets), but I rarely play it, and I never buy scratch tickets. When the jackpot gets over a couple of million, the ticket price buys you a few hours or days of daydreaming, and it is worth the price for that alone.
when i was separating from my wife and leaving the jws, i had some visions.
for some strange reason, i decided not to eat for a day, then when i found my thinking clearer and my emotions mellower, i fasted for another two days.
so after the third day, i was walking down our street and i saw the houses burning after me, i felt this was an affirmation that marriage was decay and destruction, or wasteage.
I think that Randi's offer serves a very valuable purpose by giving those who claim to have special powers a place to prove their claim. As the old saying goes; "extrodinary claims require extrodinary evidence" and it seems that most of the people who have attempted his prize do not get past the basic preliminaries. In other words, once a true double-blind test is applied to folks who - in all sincerity - REALLY believe that they have some power (irrespective of what it may be), they can't perform their feat.
I don't quite understand what this remoe viewing entails. Is it a matter of you or her seeing the same thing that I or another person sees, or that we think about? Or is it a matter of having us both agree on a specific location, and your being able to see what is there? In any case, what I can do right now for a preliminary test is take a photo of something and put it right in the middle of my desk here in the office. Now, (again, I'm not trying to be a smart-ass here), do I have to tell you the address or can you locate this just based on MY knowing where it is?
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