i've just signed up two days ago, but i've been lurking for about a year and a half.
here's my story if you're interested:.
my parents converted when they were in their first semester of college.
Great post Miss. Totally got what you were saying about being naïve about how the real world works when you step out into it properly but it really isn't as scary as we were led to believe.
By the by, don't buy into labels like apostate! That is the dubs way of excusing how they treat good people that have a thinking brain.
Take care friend and enjoy your Freedom. Awesome news. Cheers
so by now most of us have heard about (or watched) the april broadcast and the ridiculous "experience" of the guy that asked god to fix his construction leak before he believed in him..... so, what would you like to "pray that god fixes" in your life??.
humorous or serious replies welcome!
(although sarcastic, cynical and funny replies preferred hehe).
the "special talk" this year was about family happiness.
as always seems to be the case it was a bait and switch job since the talk had actually nothing to do with how to achive family happiness and everything to do with jw doctrine on why familys are unhappy.
mine is unhappy because of jw doctrine but thats the implied irony in attending the sunday indoctrination i suppose.. that said, the speaker trotted out the oft used jw illistration of a dented bread pan to describe why and how sin was passed from one human (adam) to another (all of us).
The whole concept of "inherited sin" makes no sense!
Why would a loving "god" happily allow future UNBORN generations to suffer for something that was OUT OF THEIR CONTROL?
- Totally with this train of thought. If you really had to think about this too hard you just give up on the whole idea of redemption in my book. It just does not make sense. It's a fairy tale to keep the masses subdued.
a few people from my jw past recently friended me on facebook and i accepted.
it was all good and we sent a few catching-up messages back and forth.
then i started seeing their newsfeed posts and it was just a bunch of memorial invite spam and nature photos with smug comments on how the chosen ones had paradise to look forward to.
Love it Phizzy !!
Unfortunately that smugness has an effect and for years I came across arrogant but may not have realised, well sometimes I did but that was probably on purpose ha, but I'm just referring to the in built smugness/arrogance that is inculcated from childhood.
When your dumb-dumbed like that for so long into believing you are the only right or true people on the entire planet ( yes that sounds crazy ) I think you intuitively become smug and that is oh so sad and destructive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7mars2mtaui.
to funny nice job....
Hey Crazyguy. This has been a crazy post/thread. Interestingly I have moved on from my original position, yes I thought it was funny and to take the mickey on this borg was ok but after reading the numerous comments I can see there are much more healthier options.
Hey sorry Ninja I just can't agree with your comments - there just not fun anymore and your just not presenting an effective argument. I'm sure on other topics you will. Cheers
i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.
you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!
what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.
Stumpy, you bought tears to my eyes when reading your last post. Wow, its life changing for you and your wife but please don't feel guilty though but I understand the very strong emotions involved and it literally took me years to reconcile my thoughts. I still have a spiritual belief though not focused on a religion per say ( more universal energy for me ) and you will work through this. Like I said my thoughts are with you over the coming months. Don't be embarrassed or awkward, I'm sure you will come up with plausible reason if you do step down, shoot sorry - don't mean to know about your world but you will figure it and you and your wife sound strong enough to sort it.
Thanks for the link, yep that sort of prayer answering is a fantasy but the gullible will eat it up. take care friend. Cheers
i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.
you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!
what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.
Welcome Stumpy! Yes that was a great post. I wish the rest of my family would see the 'light' but they remain fixed.
Silly but unlike you they don't seem to question anything.
I just checked my status and realised I only joined 11 days ago. Wow, it feels like a lot longer because of a new found freedom of mind and a release of a lot of emotion I did not realise I was carrying.
I have not set foot in KH for 18 years, have not believed either but I guess reading stories about peoples lives has added peace.
Really wish you and your wife well in the coming months. Cheers and well done friend.
i know of the local congregation's issues, per an elder i know quite well.
he has said that nearly everyone in the congregation is suffering emotionally and mentally.
he said he has never seen so many witnesses with so many problems.
A while ago having a discussion about the dubs and all the damage it has done with my uber elder brother, he said well we will have to agree to disagree and said if it makes me happy then what is wrong with that. How come you are so stressed all the time then? I replied.
There really isn't any way to get through if they are so brainwashed. I know of many that were on anti-depressants but were not able to admit it openly but they are still able to pretend to be happy
i believe that since it is not politically correct to spank your child, the watchtower doesn't push parents anymore in that direction.. years ago, elders would sit a parent down and tell them that they needed to discipline their kids and if needed, give them a spanking, since the bible says, they won't die if you give them a beating.. what is the watchtower's view on this subject now?.
