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  What pisses you off about elders wives?

  by bay64me in

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  the elders wife that really pisses me off, is the one that would boastfully announce that jehovah had provided her husband with a part-time teaching job, emphasising that his employment was "on the line" each year....but thanks to jehovah,(in other words) we are so fucking loyal and do many hours in field service and things that nobody could possibly know about ( but i'm letting you know indirectly) so my husband has an income to assist us in our pioneer service!

  what pisses you off about elders wives?

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  i am STILL an elders wife....i have never been any of those things.....quiet,,minded my own business....worked very very hard for others in the congregation,,,,meals when people were sick,,always in
  the kitchen at wedding time....surprize presents or parties for the
  kids in the hall....no distinctions ever made...every one always
  welcome...NEVER shunned a single person ever....i would HUG a disfellow-shipped person if they came to the hall...there is NO rule against
  touch!!!! i always gave them a smile,,,i was a good person....i say was,,
  because i cannot go anymore...no way, no how....so,,,there are some of]
  us out there who were decent....no i am not offended...just stating
  some fact...
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  coping strategies, adjustments to new experiences?

  by Celtic in

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  today, i've been thinking as deeply as ever, trying to get to grips not just with my own personal experiences, but also gaining more understanding and empathy with the 'group consciousness' struggling, to come to terms with similar life experiences here represented within this community.

  (does my ruddy nut in).

  wow!!

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  yes,,,very heart searching questions.......i do not have coping abilities
  henceforth,,,,i am under a doctors care,,,,antidepresants and therapy
  sessions....

  what tools do i wish were available to me....a person who lived in the
  same town as me,,,who i could see in person,,,and pour my guts out...
  some one who would totally understand,,,and be confidential,,,and still
  like me as a person..

  feelings???? i struggle with all feelings...every thing is mixed up...and
  i don't understand so much....maybe with time i will...

  workshops....help to get rid of the guilt....it is so consuming...

  personal obsticale!!! the need to quit thinking i am wrong...feelings
  that the organization is right,,,and i MUST PREACH this or recieve gods
  wrath...i will defend the organization yet at the same time be breaking
  all of his standards....because i cannot deal with them...it makes
  no sense to me why i do this...but when it happens,,,i just KNOW i have
  to....then...afterwards....i am so unhappy that i did it...

  I WISH I COULD STOP DOING THIS,,,THINKING THIS WAY,,,,I JUST WANT TO BE ME!!!

  again maybe with time.....i was in 30 years....out now for only 1year...
  i still am having night mares...so it might be awhile...this site has
  helped....makes me feel "NORMAL" ( i think that is a compliment, smile)
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  leaving well enough alone

  by spider in

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  its late and i am tired but i'm kinda stirred up.

  i forgot it could get like this.

  i left the religion behind and its fine really - nicely in the past - of course i got issues and i get angry sometimes but i left it all behind - all the friends.

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  how sad for you!!!!!!
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  WHICH MEETING WAS THE MOST BORING?

  by minimus in

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  the more meetings you go to the more drivel you hear.

  elder's meetings were terrible because all you ever did was gossip about how everyone wasn't doing this or that.

  meetings for field service sucked.....enough said on that.

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  opps,,,,i forgot my favorite response!!!!

  by william pen-----written review night....i think the clock actually went backwards-----ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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  WHICH MEETING WAS THE MOST BORING?

  by minimus in

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  the more meetings you go to the more drivel you hear.

  elder's meetings were terrible because all you ever did was gossip about how everyone wasn't doing this or that.

  meetings for field service sucked.....enough said on that.

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  all of them---ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

  book study---had to take my shoes off and watch a dog run around and
  piss on every thing----ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

  you know,,,those family things on stage---- ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

  conventions,,crap started thursday mornings---ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

  i have just quoted SOME of the responses given...i have never laughed
  so hard....my god,,,you people are hysterical!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  Donations from Dubs

  by WildTurkey in

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  i was secretary in my cong, so i know how much the dubs donated, the cong i attended has about 60 publishers, but 5 families supported the whole kh.

  i guess in my cong the dubs were obedient to all the "faith slave" said until it hurt their pockets.

  lol edited by - wildturkey on 1 august 2002 14:51:32.

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  in the congregation here it is the same way,,,,i do not know if it was required or strongly suggested,,,but every elder gave an alotted amount..

  about 60 or so publishers...but not a wealthy congregation...the expenses
  were mainly handled by just a few....i don't know but i don't think that
  this is an uncommon practise.....
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  Has this place changed you?

  by OUTLAW in

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  when i first came here i was happy to find a place where i could laugh, get pissed off or just speak my mind on a subject.the people i have met here are some of the most,kind,careing,informative,helpfull souls.

  i couldn`t have asked for a better group to be involved with.i do not always agree with my board mates.even with the ones who piss me off,there is still a comradeship(yk comes to mind,lol).finding this board has taught me one important thing.we are not alone,we have each other...outlaw

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  this site has provided understanding....nobody knows what it is like
  unless you have "been there".....i see a therapist and i am trying to
  heal....but when you don't know anything about the organization it is
  hard to immagine the emotional impact...

  the guilt is not normal guilt>>>>it is massive
  the shame is not normal shame>>>>it is crippiling
  the lonliness and emptiness is not normal>>>>>>it is excrusiating
  the desperation can be life threatening

  here though....when some one says,,,been there done that....you just
  know that they understand...

  jw's have their own language....when you talk about a jc meeting,
  reproof,,,or shunnning,,,,no explaination is needed...the impact and
  understanding is there....

  so,,,it is nice here...a refuge,,,a "hiding place from the storm"
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  Update: My Uncle's funeral

  by Fire Dragon in

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  well my friends....my real friends...the funeral is over.

  i can count 5 witnesses...only 5, that offered any sort of comfort to me.

  those are the ones that i know really love(d) me.

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  it just must have hurt so much.....i am glad you stayed......i am thinking of you
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  Cartoon Depiction of Real Fate of Repentant Sheep

  by Had Enough in

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  i hope you all can see this.

  let me know if it doesn't work.. i just had to share it with you since it fits the borg to a "t".. lonely, shunned, rejected sheep returns to be reinstated.

  shepherd thinking his true feelings but not revealing them until the sheep is lead to the slaughter.. .

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  it would be funny if it wasn't so true and sad
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  Prayer does it work for you?

  by haujobbz in

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  hello everyone more questions as usual, do you think praying ever helped you or was it just like talking to the air, its funny because when i was i jw i did pray a lot and convinced myself it worked,but now i think about it, did it help me or was it what i wanted to believe.i mean i always seemed to say to myself b4 yeh praying really helps me in my life and when things went right 4 me like maybe being regular as a preacher,at meetings,and doing whats was right, i felt my prayers were answered but i think these things happened because i wanted them to be that way not because of praying you know like the placebo effect.you see just because you pray 4 something and coincidently it happens does it mean your prayers worked.

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  i see the cruelty of what happens when people pray:::::::some examples
  of people and their experiences i know about:::::

  my friend who was mentally ill,,,big time,,,,prayed for strength to do
  what was right....she had always had a problem with smoking...and took
  it up again after falling apart....my friend,,,who could not even get
  out of bed,,,,was disfellowshipped...after the elders worked with her
  and did deep personal prayer for guidance in her behalf....

  another family had gotten a kitten.....but the cat acted strangely...
  and they begin to feel uncomfortable and upset themselves....they
  prayed deeply,,,coming to the conclusion that the cat had a demon!!!
  they killed the cat....

  the elders pray for insight when considering a man for appointment
  to elder or ms.....the circuit overseer prayers over it...the
  brothers in brooklyn pray over it...it is a divine arrangement from
  jehovah himself....with jesus guiding and directing this...angels are
  at work here....yet,,,some of the meanest and untruthful people are
  appointed??????????

  if there prayers don't work,,,,why should mine....yes,,,i know i am a
  mess...