i recently got hold of the book the catholic answer to the jehovah's witnesses (louise d'angelo, maryheart catholic information center, meriden, connecticut, 1981).
it's a pretty critique of the jws in many parts, especially on the topic of "jws and false predictions".
with regard to "the generation of 1914" it said:.
This basically means that what Jesus was saying was "THIS generation, which is not really THIS generation at all but the generation that is living when the end comes will by no means pass away by the time the end comes."In otherwords, "the generation that is living when the end comes will be living when the end comes."
Hehehehehehehehe!!!
Can I cut and past this and use it for my tag line?
circe
i have been lurking here for about 3 months or so, and i guess i finally decided today to jump on in and join the board.
i dont want to make this post too long, but just to give you all a background......i was born in 1975 to a jw mother and non believing father.
i have one younger brother.
Hi Soledad!
Welcome to the board. I don't post much, but I read the board almost every day.
So glad to have you here!
circe
gen 2:17 - god says: eat from the tree of knowledge of good and bad and you will absolutely die!.
gen 3:5 - satan says: god knows that in the very day of your eating from it your eyes are bound to be opened and you are bound to be like god knowing good and bad.. .
so what happen?.
Plum,
OK refiners you better never call me sick sick sick again because I like Rob Zombie!
Refiners and Dutchie,
conveyed through trance chanellers who are making contact direct to the 'higher" realms!Can't say I much care for channelers. I think most of them are rip-off artists.
However, I do agree with the overall philosophy of what you said Refiners about us (the cosmos) being part of God, learning and working our way back.
Some sects of Hinduism teach this. I got my first taste of this idea through Hinduism and also through Joseph Campbell.
Gary Zukav's philosophy embraces this as well.
Has anyone ever had a "mystical" (direct) experience of the divine?
circe
as i read veniceit's thread, i remembered what happened to me a few years ago.
i worked for lucent tech in wichita, kansas.
i reported to a young man (about 22) who had just gotten out of college and just got married.
As much as I hate gyno visits, I have to say how happy I am that I don't have to have a prostate exam. "Bend over. Now cough"
Of course, sooner or later, most women will submit to an exam to test for colon cancer, so I guess we get it in the end anyway.[8>] (I know, bad pun.)
circe
hi everyone,.
i am a new poster who is putting off their own personal story of finding this site for a while..... i find alot of people here utterly fascinating, and would like to know..... exactly what is everyones professional field of work?.
i would like to be a full time poster on this forum, but alas, the $$$$ are quite light in that field of work.. apologies if this has been asked before.. just curious.
I'm a nutritionist and a manager for a "natural" foods store.
It's fun but I sure wish I had gone into veterinary medicine years ago when I had the stamina.
circe
the wtbts uses the word 'jehovah' to lord it over people.
it's great that they picked on a made up name - it's a gift horse in the mouth for you to be so at liberty to drop it.
(i love sayings, you know, a gift , horse / pride, and from their own mouth?)..
I think it's one of the funniest most ridicules arguments I have ever heard people engage in.
What was the argument that you've heard people engage in? That God is female? I certainly don't feel God is female.
If you believe that God created us and your basing that on what you have learned from the Bible then we were created in Gods IMAGE.I do believe in God and I do believe that we have attributes of our creator.
Since Jesus call's God his Father then that is just an expression for us dummies on earth to identify with. It doesn't mean God is actually a BOY GOD. God is not a human Boy or Girl.Agreed - Jesus only called God "Father" so that his listeners would have something to identify with.
Since he created Adam first and Adam is the FATHER of His children then it only makes sense that we would refer to God our creator as Father not Mother.OK, there you lost me. Just because God supposedly created Adam first then it makes sense that we should call God "Father"?
If God is essentially both male and female, being complete and not "dual", but God decided to make the sexes seperate for some strange reason, then whose to say that the male aspect of God is important enough to warrant calling "him" Father and not Mother?
Actually, I don't really care. I'm not arguing. I call God father sometimes and mother sometimes, but to be honest I don't pray much other than the occasional "thank you for my life" feelings.
I don't think the creator is either sex. To me it seems God must have all aspects. I just get a kick out of people who really do think our creator is male.
The male aspects of God are those that are highlighted most in the Bible, to the point that many people really think of God as male in mind and temperment, if not genitilia.
I get just as much a kick out of people not questioning the reasons for their beliefs, all the way down to the base of their beliefs (like the bible) as you do from people referring to God as Goddess or Mother.
circe
the wtbts uses the word 'jehovah' to lord it over people.
it's great that they picked on a made up name - it's a gift horse in the mouth for you to be so at liberty to drop it.
(i love sayings, you know, a gift , horse / pride, and from their own mouth?)..
Christian Observer,
Great post!
The bit about: Marjorie to MRJR to MaRuJeR to NaRuYeR really highlights the point of the futility of arguing how the God of the Bible's name should be pronounced.
I found it especially amusing since my grandmother's name is Marjorie. lol
I don't use the name Jehovah. I don't use the name Yahweh. I usually use God because it's the most, um, generic.
Out of curiousity, how many here actually believe that the Creator is male?
I know it's easier to refer to God as "He" and "Him", but how many think that God is actually, physically or "emotionally" male?
Who, when they pray or think of God, find themselves picturing a wise, grey haired old man or some other male figure?
Does anyone here ever ponder what would have to be the "female" characteristics of God?
circe
i thought someone would post about the movie last sunday, (part 2 tonight, tuesday) "living with the dead", starring ted danson.
it is the story of james van pragh, the psychic who sees dead people.
it reminded me a little of "the sixth sense", especially when he was a little boy.. did anyone else see it?
I enjoyed the movie the same way I enjoyed Sixth Sense.
However I believe Van Praagh is as much as a fraud as Edwards. He does employ "cold reading" (just like Edwards does).
Here is a link that discusses his "technique": http://www.csicop.org/articles/19990608-vanpraagh/index.html
I found it amusing that many of the commercials during the movie were to push his new daytime psychic talk show that will be airing soon.
I'm a very spiritual person, but I'm also a skeptic. (The two traits can co-exist. ) I believe there is more to reality than what we see, but I don't think that people like Van Praagh acurately represent that unseen reality. I think they do what they do for power and profit. It makes me sad.
circe
when i was young i used to love reading comic books and still have a collection.the marvel commics were always my favorite.although i liked alot of the different characters i would have to say spiderman was my favorite .i can't wait to see the movie it looks so cool from the previews.so common i know some of ya are into comics ,let's have it whose your favorite super hero or villian?
he he
Who's my favorite super hero?
SPIDERMAN!
When I was little Spiderman and the Incredible Hulk were neck in neck for favorite.
I also liked Electra Woman and Dyna Girl and the Incredible Isis. I must have been 8 years old when those shows were on TV. Maybe younger. So long ago.
Spiderman, spiderman, does whatever a spider can....
circe
i was just wondering....how many of you have actually met each other?
i'm new here.
what i mean is, are there regular reunions where one can go and meet other ex-jw's face to face?
Other than felixa, who I got to know online, then met in person, then married and got to know in the biblical sense , I've only met Rational Witness (RW), who doesn't post here, but used to post at H20.
circe
