Oh my God!!! Are we really that bad? It is kind of sad when you read it out like that.
Sheri
why do women whine and winge and complain and then you give in...and they find something new to whine winge and complain about?
are they ever satisfied?
whats with mood swings every damn month from happy....to horney.....to angry mental case.....back to happy?
Oh my God!!! Are we really that bad? It is kind of sad when you read it out like that.
Sheri
i was speaking with a dfed jw tonight and he wants to return to jw land.
he believes they have the truth.
well, i asked him if he felt that everyone else except jw's would die at armageddon.
Thank goodness I am not going insane. How could someone be a witness all their life and then say that they were never taught that? I think he musn't have been listening or looking very well.
Thank you all.
Sheri
i was speaking with a dfed jw tonight and he wants to return to jw land.
he believes they have the truth.
well, i asked him if he felt that everyone else except jw's would die at armageddon.
I was speaking with a dfed jw tonight and he wants to return to JW land. He believes they have the truth. Well, I asked him if he felt that everyone else except JW's would die at Armageddon. He said that he was never taught that and he was raised a witness. Didn't and don't they teach that unless you are a JW at the end times you will die?
It scares me and makes me happy that I am forgetting so much. Of course, I think that I have forgotten more than he will ever know.
He has read one chapter of the now is finished the great mystery by CT Russell and said that it makes him happy that the witnesses are constantly changing because Russell said that was the sign of a true religion. One that doesn't plateau one that keeps learning and growning. So, all the new light is a good thing. Explained to him that the current teaching for the generation has now returned to one that they were teaching in the 40's but he just didn't care. Arguing with a dub is the most frustrating thing in the world. The don't have any reasoning ablility.
But, back to the orginal question, they do teach that unless you are a JW you will die at Armageddon right? I haven't lost my mind have I?
Sheri
tell me how you feel about spanking your kids - be honest now!!!
have you ever, and under what circumstances?.
what other methods of discipline do you use?
There are times that it feels like we have exauhsted every other source of punishment for our son. When that happens he will get a swat on the rear but it makes me feel like I have failed when it goes that far.
Though as yet the best punishment that we have found is to tell him that he will have to sleep in his own room. A couple of weeks ago he was behaving really badly and kept telling me he hates me. That really really hurts to have your five year old say something that ugly. So, I sat him down and told him that the next time he said that he would be sleeping in his own room. Well, the next evening on the way to bed I was gently teasing him. He got mad at me and then said "I hate you." Immediately, he began apologizing and crying terribly. I made him sleep in his bed in his room that night. He hasn't said it again.
And, yes, he is five and he still sleeps in our room (not in our bed). We really do love to have him near.
Sheri
had a long conversation with my mom tonight and we went back and forth for over an hour regarding the wt.
she said something tonight that kind of left me speechless as i've never heard anything like this one before.
the wt is right because... .
They use Jehovahs name. (My brother in law just swears by that.)
sheri
i have never posted my personal story about my years as a jw, and my departure from the organization.
i thought that my personal story might be of interest.
it is my hope that some of my experiences and observations might be of help to some of you who have recently left the organization.
It is always nice to read someones story. You are a very captivating writer. Can't wait to read the rest.
Welcome to JWD
Sheri
was everyone treated the same in your hall?
Sorry, everyone but I am going to have to disagree with you. (At least in my case.) My father was an elder, the P.O. for some of the time.
There was a congregation get together when I was about 16 and I was counseled for dancing too closely with another young brother.
When I was 18 I was accused of being a lesbian for pinching a girl friends behind. I was accused of committing fornication with my future husband. My father was pulled aside and counseled because two weeks prior to our wedding we were kissing outside of our familys house. An elder saw it and went to my dad and swore we were commiting fornication. We were questioned. The elder said he saw lust in our eyes. My dad said he hoped so as we were getting married in two weeks.
Even after we were married we were counseled that we were holding hands too much at the congregation.
I was constantly under the scruntity of the elders, scared to death to do something wrong because of all the trouble I got into and not doing anything wrong.
I have seen a lot of elders kids get away with a lot but that wasn't the case in our family.
Sheri
i often times wonder what happened to certain bethelites that i ran around with during my 1990s tenure there.
while there are still a few left there, the greater majority of them aren't there for various reasons (marriage, disillusionment, left the borg, etc).
a couple of cats i wonder about - there was one brother who i believe was from kansas, who got his fingers cut off in a printing press.
Ron Curzan
Wasn't he the one that posed for the Adam picture in the big green book about the history of Jehovahs Witnesses? (Sorry, for the life of me I can't remember the name of that book.)
If it is one and the same he married a girl from Springfield, Missouri, Liz Ragsdale.
He had a friend named Paul that had the most beautiful blue eyes.
Sheri
yesterday, i was in court and was sitting in the front row going through my paperwork waiting to see if the defendant will show, i look across the walk way and there is a very large latina girl sitting directly across from me.
she was wearing a short little black dress that had a slit all the way up to ass cheek, her boobs were nearly popping out, her little black dress shoes looked as if she was baking bread in them.
now don't get me wrong i have nothing against full figured girls, however there are limits, i mean did she not know that when she sat down her dress went up over her ass?
Worldy Andre:
I can't believe that you thought that I looked that bad. The way you were looking at me I thought that you might have liked me or something.
Sheri
hi guys.
am a relative newbee and still a member of the borg, two weeks ago had 2 elders visit ostensibly to shepherd/correct me for sharing some personal study viewpoints which they heard had upset a bro and sis who had not bothered to contact me in the spirit of matt 18 although according to one of the elders this is one of the most abused scriptures in the bible , the r&f spillling the beans on each other to the boe and the elders listening to any hearsay and then confronting brothers, any experiences ?
also i had been seen visiting my dfd daughter and son in law ( also posters here ) this resulted in my having some basic priveledges removed,assembly attendant, pioneer, regional bc helper.. i wrote a letter of concern and copied to our co who took the time to visit me and in the presence of the elders agreed that their decision was technically wrong and not a demonstration of kindness , also that my relationship with my family was not one for a general judgement but was between my conscience and jehovah, the time i might spend with them was my affair and only if stumbling was to occur within the cong might it be flagged up for further counsel.
Hi Frisbee
I don't think that are getting easier on the df arrangement. My parents are df'd and my little brother who is still in will not speak to them and hasn't now for almost three years. He won't speak to me, my brother or sister either as we are out but not df'd. He is a Ministerial Servant possilby and elder now. I believe that speaking to df'd family has always been pretty much a matter of conscience.
Good for you on your stand and also you ability to approach a CO.
Sheri