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  The Tale Of River Song

  by River Song in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello all, thanks for all the warm welcomes this weekend.

  there was some interest in my origins story so here goes.. i am a born in, never baptised.

  my parents were immigrants who knew no one in a new town in a new country when they got love bombed into the cult.

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  @ River Song - Yes. Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi have their merits, but David Tennant has been the best so far.
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  The Tale Of River Song

  by River Song in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello all, thanks for all the warm welcomes this weekend.

  there was some interest in my origins story so here goes.. i am a born in, never baptised.

  my parents were immigrants who knew no one in a new town in a new country when they got love bombed into the cult.

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  Welcome fellow Whovian. :-)
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  Mamas...

  by Vidiot in

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  j-dubs aint easy to talk to and harder to like...they'd rather give you a tract than say gesundheit...saturday morning, instead of cartoons,xxxxits the watchtower brought to your door...if you say youre not interested, youre outta luck;xxxxtheyll be back next week offering more.. mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be j-dubs...dont let em get baptized at seven years old,xxxxor take em out knockin on doors in the cold.mamas, dont let your babies grow up to be j-dubs...theyll never quite manage to think for themselves,xxxxjust know how to do what theyre told... j-dubs might not smoke weed or watch r-rated movies...theyd rather stay home than go drinking on saturday night...thats all fine and dandy if youre eighty-six,xxxxand waiting, one foot in the grave...but a kid needs some fun in his life while hes young,xxxxstead of being a watchtower slave.. mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be j-dubs...dont let em be judged by a self-righteous putz,xxxxteach em to stand up show they got guts...mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be j-dubs...pretty sure they would rather be shoveling shit,xxxxthen have pedophiles groping their butts.. oh, mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be j-dubs...let em date pretty girls that they know from school,xxxxcollegell teach em theyre nobodys fool.yes, mamas, if you keep your babies from growin up j-dubs...theyll be thankin you all through the rest of your life;xxxxhell, they might even think that youre cool..

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  Mammas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Cowboys by Waylon Jennings. Listened to it all the time growing up.
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  Where has all the money gone?

  by gingerbread in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a number of years ago when i was still active, our service group was having a coffee break with the visiting circuit overseer.

  during the conversation he mentioned that the "society" was now being run like a business.

  being raised in the "truth" i thought that rather odd (and my eyes began to be opened!

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  I don't think they will tithe on an individual level, but I think we will see them pressure the elders to pass resolutions to tithe on a congregation level. They already are after having the mortgages "forgiven", but I could see them pressuring the COs to pressure the elders to up their congregation tithes. Then when the congregation cannot pay the monthly amount, it'll be up to the elders to have a local needs about donations. The flip side of this is that, as the congregation tithing amount increases, the R&F will decrease donations directly to the World Wide Work thinking that the congregation is covering that now.
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  Bethel layoff question

  by CookieMonster in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi,.

  with the layoffs of bethelites and special pioneers, does anyone know if they get some sort of "redundancy" payout?

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  At least SPs are being given 3 months of expenses and don't have to meet their hour requirements during that time. Bethelites get nada.
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  Suicide or Real Freedom? - My Story As One Of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  "sometimes i think the only thing i could do that wouldn't upset someone would be to kill myself.".

  those were the frustrated words of my friend as we stood out in his large yard in the country, just about to enjoy a nice bonfire on a beautiful night.

  what was it that could have been a lesser evil than killing himself?

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  Awesome post! I love how you accomplished your goals, were blessed, and yet not one JW or family member could see it that way. I'm going to go find some of those books you mentioned and see if they help me.

  Thanks again for the post! It really was a moving experience and quite the journey.
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  Something interesting!

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was invited to a small get-together by a long time friend.

  we both served as elders for years.

  he is in his late 70s.

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  BTW what about the 30s-40s jws. They are not facebook generation but at the same time they are not the 60s and up who gave up their life. They are like in limbo? What do you think about them?

  I'm in that age range of JWs. Some of us adopted facebook and some of us didn't. Some of us are online all the time and some of us aren't. I do think we are in limbo. We were not part of the scholarly generation that studied the bible thoroughly. We were raised as the org was transitioning to "Truth Lite". We bought into the idea that JH was leading this org and that we could rely on what we were being taught as truth. We were also distracted by the numerous foreign language groups and congregations and the repeated requests to move to where the need was greater. Thus we didn't have time for researching the doctrinal changes and the orgs history.

  I'm hoping that as some start to or continue to experience hardships and see how the GB and helpers live in contrast to their own lives that more of us will wake up.
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  Pledge for Global Assistance Arrangement - $15 per publisher!

  by nmthinker in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last night our congregation read a letter for the global assistance arrangement combined with the traveling overseer assistance arrangement.

  the "recommended" amount was $15 per publisher, which was well over $1000 for our hall.. it seemed steep.

  our congregation does not have this type of money.

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  They haven't received one dime of my money since Jan/Feb of this year. Their greed and constant focus on donations helped to reinforce that they are not faithful or discreet. My congregation elders can pledge all they want, but someone else is going to have to pony up the $30 for me and my wife. I really hope the congregation just defaults on it's pledge or the elders who pledge it end up making up the difference.
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  Is there actually a valid Translation of the Bible ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i saw a vid on-line awhile ago, i cannot remember the title so can't find it, but the guy was some sort of expert in the languages of the bible, and he made a very good case that there has never been a proper translation of the bible.. what he was saying was that all translators fall into the same trap of an overly slavish use of the etymology of words rather than how language was actually used at the time of writing.. he said that what was needed were scholars who were familiar with secular contemporaneous writings, and knew how language was used at the time.. this looks like a very interesting argument.. any thoughts ?

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  I remember getting into a heated discussion with my dad about the colloquialism in Psalms where it says "your enemies will lick the dust". My dad insisted that this meant that the enemies will be killed as "lick the dust" today implies that, but according to biblical scholars this was a colloquialism that meant someone would be bowed down sort of like "lick my boots". Surprisingly this was a colloquialism that WT got right, at least in ASL. The ASL translation does not say "lick the dust" but is translated as "be made subject to". The problem was that in the English WT there was no explanation of the colloquialism's true meaning.

  That was probably one of the reasons for my eventual awakening. I realized that I couldn't just read the Bible and think of it in our terms, but needed to research the context.
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  The Psychological Manipulation of the Watchtower.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when someone interacts with you they can influence your thoughts and also manipulate your thinking.

  i became aware that this is what i was doing with householders on the ministry.

  we chipped away at householders with manipulation, and called it a return call.

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  Definitely this. My wife and I haven't been to a meeting in over 2 weeks. She feels guilty about it but otherwise she is more relaxed. She has had the opportunity to go several times, but decided herself that she was too tired or had some other excuse. The less she goes the more open she is to talking about TTATT. Unfortunately we're supposed to go to an assembly this weekend.

  I'm hoping my dog's diarrhea problem continues and we're forced to stay home. Who would've thought that I'd be hoping for my dog to have diarrhea??? If we do go, I have a piratebox ready to go.

  BTW, my dog is ok. She's getting better. She's still a puppy and likes to eat things that she shouldn't. Acorns evidently cause gas and diarrhea. I try to keep her from eating them, but she is very sneaky and got a few too many recently. I know acorns are mildly toxic too, however, from what I read, she'd have to eat a ton of them before the toxins would make her sick.