they're obviously getting rid of the rags, drastically reducing printing of books in general, eliminating special pioneers, etc., etc.. ... what could they possibly need a 1.6 million square feet compound for (not including outside space) in the middle of nowhere?.
just to put things into perspective, 1.6 million square feet is equal to the square footage of roughly twelve (12) costco warehouse clubs.
wtf?
They are supposed to be creating two or more museums for JWs to visit. One is specifically for the Bible and the other is for JW history. They have smaller versions currently at Brooklyn, but my understanding is that they will be much larger at Warwick.
Do we know how much sq ft they have at Brooklyn now? They do have a lot of offices and conference rooms in Brooklyn now.
in a separate thread on the very latest figures for the current world wide annual report of jws, discussion turned to how "we'll know decline has really set in.
one of the posters said: .
the figure that interests me most is the number of congregations.
this guy, dale standridge, was the coordinator of the body of elders in the eureka east congregation in humboltd county california.
http://johnchiv.blogspot.com/2015/11/100000-bail-for-dale-standbridge.html?m=1.
it's not getting a lot of play in the press for some reason.
He's being represented by a public attorney. He'll probably be found guilty or accept a plea.
Whether you're guilty or not, you should never be represented by a public attorney...
1. watchtower & awake - under review as these is now a 16-page anorexic pamphlets (not magazines) .
2. espn: 42.9 million 3. people: 28 million 4. allrecipes: 24.5 million 5. forbes: 21.6 million 6. time: 18.1 million 7. entertainment weekly: 14.3 million 8. cosmopolitan: 13.7 million 9. bloomberg businessweek: 11.2 million 10. new york: 9.8 million .
a young couple from our cong has been invited to attend the school for kingdom evangelizers.
we found out because they rent a small home from my mil.
they came to tell her they will be leaving for florida for one month to two months.
It's actually a good scam that the WT has. They are getting pioneers excited to go to the SKE. Before the accept them, they make them agree to move where ever they are asked all on their own dime. When they graduate, they tell them where they want them to go and the pioneers go. It's like need-greaters, but the society gets to direct them like SPs without paying for them.
Many who graduated from the first classes (couples school) were upgraded to SPs, temp SPs, or temp COs. And even last years class graduates were told that after about 18 months they would either be upgraded to one of the above or be let loose to stay where they were assigned or return home.
I suspect that's why they feel comfortable letting all the SPs go. They have an almost free and endless supply of SPs that they don't have to pay for.
the organized to do jehovah's will book pg 77, tells us haviing come to jesus, therefore, in response to his invitation to follow him, we have been blessed with knowledge of jah god & of jc.
we have been taught jah's ways.
with his help we have been able to make our mind over, change our personality, & harmonize our daily conduct with jah's righteous standards.
Want to read something that will make your blood boil? The 14 year old boy that was statutorily raped by a 35 year old JW woman was disfellowshipped along with her.
Here's the article:
thousands of mormons have simultaneously tendered their resignation from the cult following secret changes to the handbook that further discriminated against gay members and the children of gay couples.. "last week secret revisions to the handbook for the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints was leaked to the public, sparking a furious backlash and ultimately resulting in the mass resignations.
" source....
after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
lsw1961-
Thank you for your posts. It's encouraging to know that there are some who are more rational within the org. I too agree that some teachings of JWs have merit. I don't agree that I need to belong to JWs in order to be saved. I may stay, but only because of family. I think there are plenty of other ways to spread the good news other than knocking on doors or standing by a cart.
I hope that more rational JWs will continue to awaken, but there is no way that they can affect change. The org does not allow change from the R&F. The only change is from the top. They have repeatedly shown that the only time they will change is when forced to because of laws, court cases, or money. Maybe when the money dries up, they will start to realize how they have deviated from Christ.
It's hard to live a double-life though and I'm not sure I can keep up the pretense that I believe all that the GB spouts. I think that is what many have issue with as well.
I look forward to more discussions with you in the future.
- TL
has anyone looked at the local churches in their area and seen pagan and freemason symbols both inside and outside.
i am not a jw but at least they don't seem to follow this trend.
why do "christians" wear a symbol of torture and death ?
Recently someone posted their reasoning about the cross and I had never looked at it from that viewpoint.
Here's the post. Below is the reasoning that I found interesting and understandable.
We then went into the subject of the Cross. David raised the objection that the biggest issue he had with Christians is that they "Worship the cross"
This is when I chimed in. I said "David, whenever you have faith involved, there are always symbols representing the object of faith. Take for example the Watchtower. You have a "Symbol" of a Watchtower on that magazine, would it be unfair for me to say that you Worship a watchtower simply because of the symbol?"
...."Well...we don't worship a Watchtower!"
.."I agree, I suspect that this Watchtower Symbol is used to represent keeping on the Watch for Gods Kingdom, in the same way the Cross is for Christians. Its symbolic of Christ Death, burial and resurrection, conquering death and giving salvation to all who believe. Notice that Jesus isn't on the cross, he is absent from it. This is symbolic of his victory over death. So its not the cross we worship at all. Its a symbol of our salvation. Now this is not to say some Christians make a talisman out of an object, to this I would agree that it would be wrong to make this symbol into something its not. But its quite another thing to broad brush every Christian who has a cross as somebody who worships it."
..." Well its still an issue because this was a death instrument, would you wear a symbol of a gun if your best friend was murdered by one?"
.." Ok, the only issue is Christians don't see the cross as a torture device primarily, its a symbol of Atonement, the very place where your sins were paid for. So its a symbol of victory and salvation. Its not murder since Jesus voluntarily went to the cross"
during a prayer in the kh all our eyes are supposed to be closed, right?
i've never been one to fully my eyes during prayers.
i'll close them down, but just enough that i can still peep around at what's happening without being noticed.. there's something i've noticed a certain elder doing for the second time now.
