Crap, missed the Prince. Oh well I don't think he plays "Erotic City" anymore so no biggie!
MinisterAmos
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Elder Alert!!!!!
by flag ini received my first elder call yesterday.
he wants to talk to me today.
i have never been afraid of the elders but i also have no experience on what they are going to say because i have never ask for their opinion on anything and i have never been accused of anything either so, any ex or current elders here that can brief me about what to expect?.
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MinisterAmos
Explaining to the Elder that your spouse does not permit you to meet with other men will work very well.
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Judicial Committee - Elder Counseling - Is your experience similar?
by Funchback inabout 9 or 10 years ago (circa 1996-1997), i faced a judicial committee for fornication (jwisms for dummies...this means i had sex outside of the "marital arrangement").
the decision "from jehovah" was made in 5 minutes.
i was privately reproved.
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MinisterAmos
My whole time as a JW was filled with dumb decisions, fear, and unhappiness, wtih NO REAL advice and counseling coming from the elders.
Dude, these are JANITORS! WTF kind of real advice is someone with a HS education going to be able to give? BAD advice is way worse than none at all.
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150+/200 New Congregations in US are Spanish
by daniel-p ini have a friend who speaks spanish and likes to go to their meetings once in a while.
she was visiting a nearby congregation who was having their co's visit and he mentioned that out of 200 congregations that were formed in the states last year, 150+ of them were spanish!!
this, of course, was mentioned in light of how fast the spanish are growing, but all i could think about was that if the spanish consists of so much of the growth in the us, then the english congregations must really be doing horribly in order to break that 0% growth!
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MinisterAmos
We have seen a huge influx of Spanish speakers after the hurricanes that battered the Gulf. Most Spanish speaking people respect the bible and want to learn more about it. They are also far from home and generally here by themselves. This makes them vulnerable to the Witnesses.
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My letter of annulment. LOL I am going to tell everyone it worked.
by jwfacts ini have posted below my letter of annulment for anyone that wants to use it.
they said that they would not honour it because i was baptised for too long and had entered pioneering and bethel.
however, i know of several people where annulment did work, but generally if they were baptised for only a couple of years and had not accepted 'privileges".
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MinisterAmos
I hope all JW's pay particular attention to the "Cult of confession" comment. Let me see, in my congregation the Elders include one Janitor, one Sofa re-finisher, and one AC Repairman. As far as I can tell the path leading to Elder includes NO special training other than the usual repetition of WTS dogma, as such, these cfolks are entrusting the most private aspects of their lives to well, UNEDUCATED JANITORS!
I'd love to share some of the comments that the Janitor Elder made to me about some of the sisters, but I am more discrete than that. Be very frigging careful is all I can say. If you wouldn't want your kids taking life lessons from their school Janitor, don't even consider the Janitor Elder as a safe place to consume the spiritual banquet.
Never fails to amaze me.
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Pre Armageddon Preparation.
by Clam inare there jws who prepare for the tribulations they assume are around the corner?
when i visted the us once in 1999 i met a few guys who were expecting a global meltdown due to the millenium bug.. as a consequence they had generators, guns, ammo, tins of food, bottled water, fuel, all kinds of stuff to help them through a civil disorder situation.
does anyone know or remember any jws who have prepared like this?
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MinisterAmos
They are not encouraged to accumulate the things necessary to survive because most janitors can't afford to stockpile.
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Stumped 'em!!!
by candysearching ini had a conversation (debate) with my disfellowshipped husband about "the truth" that he tries so hard to protect.
me: hey, babe, can you tell me again why jw do not celebrate birthdays?.
hubby: well, only two are mentioned in the bible, and on both, men were killed.. me: well, herod and pharoah killed men whenever they felt like it right?
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MinisterAmos
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Oral sex used to be a "homosexual act" but now it's up to each person's concious.
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update on New Orleans
by stillajwexelder inletter read from rbc - they are looking for elders (ideally with construction experience) to spend 3 months or more down in new orleans - for oversight and construction.
having children and family is not a barrier.
main probelm is combatting and eradicating mould.
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MinisterAmos
If you folks havn't seen the installation used for staging volunteer workers in Mobile, it's quite the sight! Space for sleeping tents, outdoor showers, privies, mobile kitchen and dining rooms all next door to the equipment yard.
Here's the deal, the volunteers fix homes, the society sends a bill for the materials used and what the labor would have cost outside the society. The homeowner is then asked to search his concious and mail a check. If there is an insurance payment that also belongs to the Society.
When I helped there were tons of people with no construction experience. When they get hurt doing this kind of work there is no help $ from the Society even though the Society is in essence acting as the project GC. When the injured people sue they are DFed.
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Circuit Overseer Celebrities?
by Delboy222 ini am a active jw, but one question i would like to know is why do these 'men' get treated as superstar celebrities when they attend the congregation?.
for as long as i can remember, there seems to be a 'buzz of excitement' when it is announced that he and his wife are due to visit.
what is so special about them?.
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MinisterAmos
Have to chime in about the complaining little CO biatches. I've been going to a spanish speaking congregation in N. Florida and well, there are LOTS of little children.
CO gets there and the first thing he does is complain loudly from the podium about the kids. He berates the Moms, (most of whom are there alone, no Dads) for not picking them all up and taking them outside (in the rain and the cold, literally) at the first hint of noise. He reminds the women that "this is God's house" although I have no idea what he meant by that since Jesus seemed to like children. Keep in mind that we are NOT talking about toddlers running around or screaming, he was complaining that BABIES cried once or twice before Mom shushed them.
His next "important message" was directed at the young men of the congregation whom he berated for wearing "trendy" clothes. Their error was to wear ties that matched their shirts.
He has since been replaced or moved up the ladder.
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SHOULD I PIONEER OR COLLEGE?
by stillAwitness indo you think the wt has become more lenient or stricter over the year?.
i am 21 and i remember just 4 years ago going to college was looked at as something negative.
girls my age, we had plans to be ft pioneers and become secretaries.
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MinisterAmos
LOL! I'm just considered a non-baptized Publisher even though I don't publish since arriving at my very own "spiritual impasse" (meaning that I can no longer stand the hypocrisy) BUT, let me share one of the best JW jokes ever with you and then you decide about about college.
The PO at my hall is a school janitor, Elder #2 runs a carpet cleaning service and Elder #3 cleans and repairs furniture. I am a mechanical Engineer and am currently attending Law School. The thing is, these folks do not have the training, skill or intelligence required to maintain their flocks. They are unable to recognize when their advice causes damage and because of their other commitments are unable to follow up when they have caused harm to someone and don't know what to do anyway. PO has a DF'ed daughter and when I questioned him was quite proud in describing how he has cut off all contact with her as a result. Do you REALLY want to be active with people who dump their own kids over a disagreement?
Take a few Psych. courses in school and you'll see the JW's in a whole different light.