the po got up there for the local need,
zecharia says that jehovah is going to destroy all the nations of the earth,( scripture was talking about jerusalem) are you going to be one of those destroyed?
if you are missing meetings, you are not being influenced by god's spirit, there is another spirit that is influincing you, that of satan
XJWMS: The worst one was the book study conductor found a old wt mag that said the elders were to respected and almost worshipped
That would be WT 9/1/97 (sorry I don't have the page as I only have it in French) Someone please paste because it's really revealing.
SCARY stuff man, and the first time I read it I couldn't believe it because it literally orders Dubz to worship other men. Even a newbie like me appreciated the restrictions God has placed on worshipping others.
i have been reading his posts and although he claims to have just met the jws a couple of months ago, he "sounds" like a jw.
comments?
Hey Spice
I don't think the end coming in '75 was ever an official prophecy BUT there was an official prophecy made in 1975 in the pages of the WT that the end would come before the (then) young ones grew old. Is that the prophecy you mean?
My favorite prophecy reversal was the one made in the October WT renouncing the then official reason for publishing the WT. That was the 1914 generational spin.
Have you seen it?
i called the information dept politely asking if mr brown was still a witness after commiting verbal apostasy during the interview with ldh.. i got transferred to one of their legal staff and he dropped the "f" bomb and hung up!
i on the other hand was a complete gentleman.. i would call this a golden opportunity to play up what has to be one of the most embarrasing moments for the dub leadership but is actually an important issue that any current dubz should be concerned about.
what is the actual policy of the org?
Emma : Watch for phone calls to end - they're too dangerous
Back when I was looking for answers and wasn't satisfied with the locals I went looking on the JW web site for EMail contact info.
There isn't any. Just then it dawned on me that they put as little as possible in writing. So yes, they will end the phone calls now that they have become a liability as well since the apostates have discovered recorders.
Phone calls also involve a single person representing himself as the voice of the org. That will never happen again.
I'm going to call back and demand to know (as a concerned Dub) the name of Brown's congo and the name of his PO to report his apostacy just as the WTBS insists we do. Any good WT quotes on keeping the congo clean that I can hit them with?
i called the information dept politely asking if mr brown was still a witness after commiting verbal apostasy during the interview with ldh.. i got transferred to one of their legal staff and he dropped the "f" bomb and hung up!
i on the other hand was a complete gentleman.. i would call this a golden opportunity to play up what has to be one of the most embarrasing moments for the dub leadership but is actually an important issue that any current dubz should be concerned about.
what is the actual policy of the org?
Dude it lasted 2 minutes. They answered "hello" which I thought very strange, I asked for Brown and was told he was not available. I asked the mystery voice If he was still a Jehovah's Witness after the publishing of his comments which were apostasy according to the definition in my Watchtower material. They said What? so I repeated it and asked if they had heard the tape on the internet. LOTS of mumbling and murmuring I asked ARE YOU THERE? and he said transferring to legal.
Next very authortative voice answered "yes he is still a witness" when I asked. I asked well what about his direct refutattion of the baptismal questions that you and I had to answer to become witnesses? "I already told you he was a witness"; "I want to know why he is ashamed of our beliefs" I told him. FYou click end transmission. Didn't even get to quote Jesus
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would you still be a jw if you had not been disfellowshipped?
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Still in but only to spew venom!
It's a freakin riot when they mention the leaflets warning about "Recent cult activity in the area" that I slipped under the brother's door mats.
"Oh yes brother! It's terrible and WHOOOOO would ever do something like that?
i called the information dept politely asking if mr brown was still a witness after commiting verbal apostasy during the interview with ldh.. i got transferred to one of their legal staff and he dropped the "f" bomb and hung up!
i on the other hand was a complete gentleman.. i would call this a golden opportunity to play up what has to be one of the most embarrasing moments for the dub leadership but is actually an important issue that any current dubz should be concerned about.
what is the actual policy of the org?
you could offer up the recording url as evidence in case they need it.
There was no dispute over the remarks; I am absolutely certain that the recording has already made the rounds.
LDH has made public one of the greatest JW scandals since the UN membership came to light.
I find it shocking that Brown was so open and brazen with his lies. He knows that all he has to do is to say "it never happened" and the two witness rule goes into effect just like with the 1975 predictions. Guess what though? This time there is proof thanks to LDH. As far as the F Guy, what would you expect? I backed him into a corner by asking him twice. He did let me know "I already answered that question" and it wasn't until I asked him to expound that he blew up.
i called the information dept politely asking if mr brown was still a witness after commiting verbal apostasy during the interview with ldh.. i got transferred to one of their legal staff and he dropped the "f" bomb and hung up!
i on the other hand was a complete gentleman.. i would call this a golden opportunity to play up what has to be one of the most embarrasing moments for the dub leadership but is actually an important issue that any current dubz should be concerned about.
what is the actual policy of the org?
Yes it's that word!
Anyone who ever had even the foggiest idea that this might be the "truth" really needs to investigate Brown's "new light" by asking him about it. He won't bite you, I promise. Heck he won't even come to the phone other than to grandstand with "impOHtant folk". Check out his video where he laments the way it was 15-20 years ago when child molestation wasn't a problem. Errrr it was a problem, it could just be swept under the rug and forgotten.
There is no compassion in Brooklyn, and the men put in front of this Corporation have no patience or understanding.
i called the information dept politely asking if mr brown was still a witness after commiting verbal apostasy during the interview with ldh.. i got transferred to one of their legal staff and he dropped the "f" bomb and hung up!
i on the other hand was a complete gentleman.. i would call this a golden opportunity to play up what has to be one of the most embarrasing moments for the dub leadership but is actually an important issue that any current dubz should be concerned about.
what is the actual policy of the org?
I called the Information Dept politely asking if Mr Brown was still a witness after commiting verbal apostasy during the interview with LDH.
I got transferred to one of their legal staff and he dropped the "F" BOMB and hung up! I on the other hand was a complete gentleman.
I would call this a golden opportunity to play up what has to be one of the most embarrasing moments for the Dub leadership but is actually an important issue that any current Dubz should be concerned about. What is the actual policy of the org? Has there been a new light announcement that they have not shared with the rank and file?
The contact info can be found at http://www.jw-media.org/contact.htm. I would urge anyone who is concerned about current "light" to contact them and post your results here.
gerrit losch (it's pronounced kinda like "lirsh") did two things at our dc (portland, or june 30-july 2).
he released the new book about the minor prophets, and he gave the closing talk, the one with the resolution in it.
first of all, losch was not promoted to the governing body because of his speaking ability.
These guys get around pretty well for having taken a vow of poverty and all
i've heard of men over the years complain about crazy chicks, but they don't always explain.
so here's the chance:.
what makes a girl/women crazy or psycho in your eyes?
I personally use "The Shocker", makes then absolutely insane!
Oh you mean the OTHER crazy...
