this story comes out of hammond, indiana.
two buses carrying some 109 witnesses were involved in an accident that left scores with minor injuries.
the first bus rear ended an suv; the second bus rear ended the first.
Now that's what I call a good start!
Does that mean that Jah does NOT hover over every Dub who is driving down the road? If so, then I need to print this for my PO who said this is why we don't need to be concerned about the Fri night School deep in red-neck beer drinking territory, over an hour away from the house that we need to travel what is statistically the most dangerous road in the US to get to.
i've always tried to teach my kids to follow aesop's fable of the 'sun and the wind', i.e.
try the gentle persuasion method for achieving your goals rather than head on aggression.
however as with most things in life there is a time and place for both.
The only guilty parties are the rules-makers in the Org who continue its' abusive legacy.
Ex-Dubs are still very attuned to the ways that the Org manipulates its' followers to get them to perform or feel shame for not following guidelines. They have already broken away. To suggest that they should somehow do more under penalty of guilt for the ones who are still in is absurd.
lets say a brother or sister loses their job, falls on welfare, doesn't have enough to eat.
what do the elders do?
a) tell them that the organization is not a place to beg but to preach, to give and not to receive.
I knew a Pioneer couple in their 30's who both worked F/T and donated every cent other than what they needed to pay the rent on their garage Apt. to needy brothers and/or the Org.
Mostly the Org but I do remember them throwing some $20's at a couple with two kids.
we brought his body home to bury on our property next to his brother cat that died about six or seven months ago.
we think he had an aneurysm and that is why he went out so fast.
he was a very sick kitty for six months.
Sorry about your friend
i'm a bit reluctant in writing this post, for i dont feel i should be here.
even a bit nervous... .
i've never officially dedicated myself to jehovah, but i was brought up in the truth, very strong, and at times when getting older, there were lulls in my attendance... yet to this day i still attend.
the good outweighs the bad. For the most part, and I would say upwards of 90% of what is taught and excercised is good....
A reasonable person might be led to believe that folks who claim to be directly influenced by the holy spirit would do a lot better than 90%. If this "spiritual buffet" were a TX restaurant and the health Department only rated it 90%, well then it would be closed for cleaning. Unfortunately, there is a whole lot more riding here than possible indigestion. Have you already decided that your three children should die rather receive a blood transfusion if they need it? The WatchTower has made that decision for you.
Remember though that these are the same guys who are "only 90%" in your own words and have such a huge history of errors and false prophecy that I am unable to find one single solitary original "doctrinal truth" that has stood the test of time.
Ask your local Elder for one example if you dare.
How do we know that Dubs have the truth?
Because it is Jehovah's organization.
How do we know it is Jehovah's organization?
Because it is the truth
Rinse and repeat as required. That'll really convince those 'Postates!
well from what i understand a cult is something that expects you to follow some man.
you must give up your individual thought processes and just go with what you are told to think.
this way you are released from individual responsibility.
I'll pull my 1963 AWAKE when I get back tomight.
There is a definative article on how Communists "brainwash" their followers and why we know that JWs are not.
I keeed you not
the first thread got scrambled i post again.
[they carried the same bold concord monitor management editorial.
] state's child abuse lawneeds improvement.
.so i would have phoned bethel..and then done exactly as they directed..
And that is why Witness Elders should NOT be accorded the equivalency of mainstream religious leaders and their "confessions" should not be considered private under secular law.
Consider the above scenario with the good Brother phoning Bethel with info that was given him in confidence. By the time the answer comes back to him how many people have noted, discussed and examined the "confidential" info?
Should it go to JC, that will be at least three more along with the body of elders.
The results (if juicy enough) are sent to Bethel where who knows how many more will see the "confidential" information.
It stays in the Witnesses' file and when he/she moves, everyone in the NEW elder body gets a copy.
Nothing spiritual at all about this process. Invasive and intruding and the courts need to pierce this shroud that tyeh Dubz hide behind
the elders now have the right to be involved in every facet of a witnesses' life!
they want your phone numbers, cell numbers, they are to be inquired of if you want to take a sh*t. these "good" men will turn into power hungry masters, if they are not already.
the society is taking control over every jw!
Minimus:But why be in the club if you didn't expect to go along with its rules?
My sarcasm meter is broken today so although I suspect you of it, I'm not certain.
In most clubs you know the rules beforehand, and they rarely change during your membership. The Dub Club is all about the stuff no-one evr tells you before hand and you are not permitted to ask about after.
It's about ever changing dogma and a "you better like it or else" attitude.
Was that what you meant?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/07/20060727-6.html
the president of the u.s. has signed into law the john walsh child protection & safety act which will among other things provide 500 new federal marshals to fight pedophiles and create a new easily accessible sex offenders finder database.
the watchtower society has not cared to divulge the names of offenders among their ranks from the governing body down to the local kingdom halls but now human society in the u.s. is doing an end-run around them.
I'm not sure how much "good" those FIVE HUNDRED new US Marshalls (500 X $175,000 total wage & ben package every year = $87,500,000) will do at catching pedophiles.
What are they going to do other than the chat rooom stings that typically start with the cop finding someone in a chat and asking them if they would like to have sex. The next line is "Oh by the way I'm only 16 is that OK?"
Not a real tough or dangerous job but I guess with US Marshalls they can chat in TX and fly out and vacation in HI while visiting the perv.
This stuff is already being done by local LE as I'm sure you all know. The feds will only raise the bar to new heights of spending per coerced arrest
as if abu ghraib was'nt bad enough.... gis describe comrades killing blindfolded iraqis u.s. soldiers testify during military hearing of 4 troops accused of murder
updated: 8:42 a.m. et aug 3, 2006
tikrit, iraq - two american soldiers thursday described in gruesome detail how their comrades allegedly killed three blindfolded iraqi detainees, one of whom was covered in brain matter and another who spit blood during his dying moments.
But you can't put ANFO bombs outside the Jehovah consulate can you?
I'd just like to point out that in order to punish the Saudis who hi-jacked the planes that knocked down the towers, the US invaded and toppled the Govts. of two different soveriegn nations.
How does that make any sense whatsoever? Hell, US policy has created many times more terrorists than it has killed.
